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ABratt's Commentary by ABratt
Democrat, Rationalist, Secularist, Human Rights Advocate, Pro-choice, Separation Church & State, Liberal
Mar 08, 2012 | 4995 views | 0 0 comments | 1 1 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

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ABratt's Favorite Web Comments: Liberals Were...Conservatives Were...
by ABratt
Oct 13, 2012 | 441 views | 0 0 comments | 7 7 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

Re-posted from HP, 10-13-12, by AB

"Liberals were the patriots who fought an won the American Revolution. Conservatives were the tories who supported aristocracy and the King of England. FDR fought against the 'economic royalists' who caused the Great Depression and were a threat to the American Dream. Now history repeats. A group of super-rich who believe they are 'American royalty' caused the Great Recession and are trying to get Romney/Ryan elected. Read the novel 'American Royalty' by Janet G. Miller to see who they are, their destructive beliefs and their 'hidden' deceptive actions that try to destroy the American Dream and the very essence of democracy with defacto laws (not passed by Congress but enacted by judges) such as Citizens United. Since 'American royalty' took control of the GOP, the GOP loves big new laws, court decisions and regulations that are unfair to everyone other than 'American royalty'. And they want to amend the Constitution that they frequently use to justify their actions. That's just a step to take us back to a government run by aristocrats like we had before 1776."

 

"No greater truth was ever told..."-- [AB]author unknown 

 

 

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ABratt's Commentary: "Wake Up Deny Obama Victory
by ABratt
Oct 12, 2012 | 562 views | 0 0 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink
"Wake up; deny Obama victory"

"Mitt Romney came to the debate armed with facts and a clear vision. President Obama showed up and, well, voted 'present.' The contrast between the two was strikingly obvious. Wake up, America. Background and experience do matter. The nation cannot afford to make the same mistake again by re-electing this smooth-talking 'community organizer.'”

Don Holcomb

Fulton

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ABRATT's Conmmentary: 10/12/12:
Holcomb:
"... Rommney came to the debate armed with facts and a clear vision."
Sorry, Mr. Holcomb, but Romney made up his own "facts" for the debate to suit Romney. And the one percenters.  From what we all know about Romney, his "Vision" is built around the worship of a false prophet, a Mormon man better known as Joe Smith. Romney is in no way a true Christian. Should he be allowed to be president of a Christian country founded on the Text of the Christian Bible? Personally, I don't think so.
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DISQUS Takes Control Of Daily Journal Reader Comments?
by ABratt
Oct 10, 2012 | 870 views | 0 0 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

Maybe Disqus bought the Journal out?

What was wrong with the former simple to operate comment program?

Disqus now tells me that I have to install a certain browser on my computer before I will be allowed to comment. Some people, me included, have to use whatever they already have on their computers without installing one that can cost up to $200 or one in particular they suggest using that is free but I learned some time ago not to use a free browser no matter how swift and accurate the mfg. claims it to be. One browser I tried previously caused me a lot PROBLEMS with my computer. And. I'm still having them.

Disqus also tells me that I have to have a following on Twitter or Face Book to be eligible to comment on the Daily Journal web site. No other web site has ever told me such nonsense.

It all sounds strange to me. Suddenly I and maybe some others are being disallowed their rights of free speech.

Try to comment on this post and see if you can.

Thanks,

ABratt

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Exposing So-Called "Family Values" "Pro-Life" Republican Pols
by ABratt
Oct 10, 2012 | 676 views | 0 0 comments | 7 7 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

"Scott Des Jarlais, Pro-Life Republican Congressman & Doctor, Pressured Mistress To Get Abortion"

HP, 10/10/2012, Re-posted by ABratt, 10/10/2012

WASHINGTON -- "A pro-life, family-values congressman who worked as a doctor before winning election as a Tea Party-backed Republican had an affair with a patient and later pressured her to get an abortion, according to a phone call transcript obtained by The Huffington Post."

 

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James Moore: The Separation Of Church & State...
by ABratt
Sep 26, 2012 | 670 views | 0 0 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

[Gov.Rick Perry’s Religious-Political Views On Separation Of Church &State Very Similar To His Mississippi Supporter, AFA’s Founder, Rev. Don Wildmon.]– AB

The Separation Of Church & State By James Moore, HP, Sept. 26, 2012, re-posted by ABratt Sept. 26, 2012.

 

"Maybe it's time for the comedy writers in New York and Los Angeles to move to Texas. They need to be closer to their source material because Texas Governor Rick Perry is making it easy for everyone to be a comic..."

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Another Conservative Conspiracy Theory Bites The Dust
by ABratt
Sep 23, 2012 | 651 views | 0 0 comments | 10 10 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

By Kevin Drum, MJ, Sept. 21, 2012, Reposted by ABratt

"This week the modern conservative id took center stage when Mitt Romney was caught on video telling a bunch of wealthy donors what they wanted to hear: that the poor are a bunch of lazy parasites who refuse to take personal responsibility for themselves. Coincidentally,..."

 

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Mormon Church & Mitt Romney: The Myth About Separation Of Church & State
by ABratt
Sep 23, 2012 | 746 views | 0 0 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

 HP,Oct. 20, 2012, Re-posted by ABratt Oct. 23, 2012.

By Derrick Shore, HP 9/19/12, Re-posted by ABratt

"Growing up in a devout Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) family in a suburb of Salt Lake City, I knew my religion as well as my name. My mom played the organ in a Mormon temple, I was a Boy Scout, and there was rarely a Sunday when we would miss church. Praying at least three times daily and studying the Book of Mormon were as essential as brushing our teeth or making dinner."

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Science & God: Will Science Rule Out The Existence Of God?
by ABratt
Sep 19, 2012 | 571 views | 0 0 comments | 8 8 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

Science & God: Will Science Rule Out The Existence Of God?

By Natalie Wochover, HP, 9-18-12

"Over the past few centuries, science can be said to have gradually chipped away at the traditional grounds for believing in God. Much of what once seemed mysterious — the existence of humanity, the life-bearing perfection of Earth, the workings of the universe — can now be..."

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Clint Eastwood On Ellen Degeneres Show...
by ABratt
Sep 18, 2012 | 581 views | 0 0 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

Clint Eastwood On Ellen Degeneres Show...

HP, Sept. 18, 2012, Re-posted by ABratt Sept.18, 2012

"Though it probably wouldn't qualify as an endorsement, Clint Eastwood re-iterated his gay marriage stance in an appearance on Ellen DeGeneres' talk show today."

 

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The Ten Commandments Of Our Founding Fathers
by ABratt
Sep 09, 2012 | 591 views | 0 0 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

The Christian Right, especially the revisionist, David Barton, argues that America was founded as a Christian nation. However, history tells us that Barton misrepresents the facts. Here is undeniable evidence that the Founding Fathers intended for America  to be a secular nation accepting all religions as equal.--AB

1.Your neighbor’s religion is none of your concern.

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

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"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle."

Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813

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2. You shall not mingle religion with politics.

"And here, without anger or resentment I bid you farewell. Sincerely wishing, that as men and Christians, ye may always fully and uninterruptedly enjoy every civil and religious right; and be, in your turn, the means of securing it to others; but that the example which ye have unwisely set, of mingling religion with politics, may be disavowed and reprobated by every inhabitant of America."

Thomas Paine, Common Sense. PDF download from "The Lou Frey Institute of Politics and Government." Pg. 51, Appendix.

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3. You shall not establish any religion above any other.

‘We the subscribers, citizens of the said Commonwealth, having taken into serious consideration, a Bill printed by order of the last Session of General Assembly, entitled 'A Bill establishing a provision for Teachers of the Christian Religion,' and conceiving that the same if finally armed with the sanctions of a law, will be a dangerous abuse of power, are bound as faithful members of a free State to remonstrate against it, and to declare the reasons by which we are determined. We remonstrate against the said Bill…"

"Because it is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of Citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The free men of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much soon to forget it. Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?"

James Madison. Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments. C. June 20, 1785

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4. You shall not bar your neighbor from public office on the basis of his beliefs.

"The proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages to which, in common with his fellow citizens, he has a natural right."

Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:301, Papers 2:546

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*5. All religions shall have equal recognition.

"The bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason & right. It still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally past; and a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word 'Jesus Christ,' so that it should read "departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it’s protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination."

Thomas Jefferson, July 27, 1821, Autobiography. ME 1:67.

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*6. You shall be religiously neutral.

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, "thus building a wall of separation between Church

& State."

Jefferson, Thomas. "Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists: The Final Letter, as Sent." The Library of Congress Information Bulletin: June 1998. Lib. of Cong., June 1998. Wednesday, 7 Aug.

2010.

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7. You shall exclude the clergy of any religion from your public schools.

"Ministers of the Gospel are excluded [from serving as Visitors of the county Elementary Schools] to avoid jealousy from the other sects, were the public education committed to the ministers of a particular one; and with more reason than in the case of their exclusion from the legislative and executive functions."

Thomas Jefferson: Note to Elementary School Act, 1817. ME 17:419

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8. You shall not disturb the religion and peace of other nations with missionaries.

"I do not know that it is a duty to disturb by missionaries the religion and peace of other countries, who may think themselves bound to extinguish by fire and fagot the heresies to which we give the name of conversions, and quote our own example for it. Were the Pope, or his holy allies, to send in mission to us some thousands of Jesuit priests to convert us to their orthodoxy, I suspect that we should deem and treat it as a national aggression on our peace and faith."

Thomas Jefferson to Michael Megear, 1823. ME 15:434

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9. You shall not ban any books.

"I am really mortified to be told that, in the United States of America, a fact like this [i.e., the purchase of an apparent geological or astronomical work] can become a subject of inquiry, and of criminal inquiry too, as an offense against religion; that a question about the sale of a book can be carried before the civil magistrate. Is this then our freedom of religion? and are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books may be sold, and what we may buy? And who is thus to dogmatize religious opinions for our citizens? Whose foot is to be the measure to which ours are all to be cut or stretched? Is a priest to be our inquisitor, or shall a layman, simple as ourselves, set up his reason as the rule for what we are to read, and what we must believe? …. for God’s sake, let us freely hear both sides, if we choose."

Thomas Jefferson to N. G. Dufief, 1814. ME 14:127

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10. You shall question the Bible.

"The whole history of these books is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills."

Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

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"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors."

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

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"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."

The Age of Reason. Thomas Paine. Chapter I – The Author’s Profession of Faith.

"EVERY national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet; as if the way to God was not open to every man alike."

"Each of those churches shows certain books, which they call revelation, or the Word of God. The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses face to face; the Christians say, that their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say, that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and, for my own part, I disbelieve them all."

Ibid. Chapter II – Of Missions and Revelations.

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"IT is upon this plain narrative of facts, together with another case I am going to mention, that the Christian mythologists, calling themselves the Christian Church, have erected their fable, which for absurdity and extravagance is not exceeded by anything that is to be found in the mythology of the ancients."

Ibid. Chapter IV – Of the Bases of Christianity.

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"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."

Ibid. Chapter VII – Examination

 

 

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