Group urges U.S. Rep. Nunnelee to oppose funding Obamacare

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Thomas Wells | Daily Journal Members of the Lee County Tea Party pickett the office of Rep. Alan Nunnelee's office on West Main Street in Tupelo on Tuesday.

Thomas Wells | Daily Journal
Members of the Lee County Tea Party pickett the office of Rep. Alan Nunnelee’s office on West Main Street in Tupelo on Tuesday.

By Robbie Ward

Daily Journal

TUPELO – U.S. Rep. Alan Nunnelee’s repeated statements that he voted to repeal, dismantle or defund Obamacare 40 times didn’t get the job done for a group of demonstrators Tuesday who gathered outside the 1st District congressman’s Tupelo office.

The dozen or so local Tea Party members believe the fight to prevent a federal law requiring individuals to have health insurance shouldn’t end when the law passed or even with failed attempts to repeal it. They want their congressional representative to vote against funding the law.

Gathered with “Don’t fund Obamacare” signs and Christian and “Don’t tread on me” flags, the group gathered on Main Street to “urge” the Congressman to support a joint U.S. House of Representatives and Senate resolution to leave out support for the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, in an appropriations bill to fund the federal government.

Monica Smith, a leader in the local Tea Party chapter, said she and others have encouraged Nunnelee to join fellow U.S. Rep. Steven Palazzo of Mississippi in supporting withholding federal funding of the health care law.

“We don’t want to shut down the government,” Smith said today. “We just don’t want to fund Obamacare.”

Jordan Russell, a spokesman for Nunnelee, said the congressman remains open to finding ways to eliminate the health care law.

“Congressman Nunnelee is 100 percent for repealing Obamacare because it is terrible for job creation, health care, and individual liberty,” Russell said in a statement. “He is reviewing all options, including H.J.Res. 62, for how to get it off the books while keeping the rest of the government open.”

Nunnelee said in an Aug. 22 editorial board meeting with the Daily Journal that he wouldn’t risk shutting down the federal government to prevent funding of the health care law signed into law by President Barack Obama in March 2010.

Critics of the law say it grants the federal government too much authority and costs too much. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2012 that most of the law was constitutional, clearing the way for much of it to be implemented in 2014.

Grant Sowell, another demonstrator in front of Nunnelee’s office Tuesday, said he believes the congressman has decided to stand by the wishes of congressional Republican leadership by not continuing to fight against the health care law.

“I think he’s a good man with a bad strategy,” Sowell said of Nunnelee. “He wants to play go ahead and get along with his leaders instead of standing with his constituents in Mississippi.”

robbie.ward@journalinc.com

  • FrereJocques

    This story says all that needs to be said about the Tea Party. Un-American and hypocritical in the extreme. Jesus spent a good deal of His ministry here on Earth healing the sick. Not only do the Tee Pee-ers not want to heal the sick, they won’t even come up with their OWN health care plan. And they’ve got the gall to call themselves “Christians”.

    • ladynred

      Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi sold this disaster of a bill to the people and hadn’t even READ The doggone thing. We are just starting to find out some of the absolute garbage that is in it. There are much better options such as HSA’s and other things we could do to reduce insurance costs, like selling policies across state lines. Anything is better than this. Families who can least afford it will be the ones hardest hit–prices are going up like crazy —after Obama PROMISED everyone would save $2500. We see how that worked out.

    • olereb

      Catch the news today FrereJocques…the GOP has a healthcare plan to offset ObamaCare and it would be better and less costly to the taxpayers. (You know that is you and me!!)

      • ladynred

        Yes, one that actually makes sense.

        • FrereJocques

          Sorry, I’ve neither seen nor heard anything of the sort. Care to provide a link?

  • imnana2

    “Congressman Nunnelee is 100 percent for repealing Obamacare because it is terrible for job creation, health care, and individual liberty,” Russell said in a statement. “He is reviewing all options, including H.J.Res. 62, for how to get it off the books while keeping the rest of the government open.” If this is true, then Congressman Nunnelee should hear his constituents and vote accordingly, even if it means voting 41 times against obamacare.

    • countrydawg

      And those repeal votes cost $1.5M apiece. Will Mr. Budget Hawk explain to voters why he’s wasted 61.5 mil on these futile gestures? Or will he explain why he and his paymasters are against residents in one of the poorest and unhealthiest states that his party don’t have an alternative for the ACA? The state is part of a region known as the Stroke Belt and Cancer Cluster; can’t go to the ER and “get that stuff fixed.”

  • guest

    I worry for our system of government and freedoms every time I read about one of these Tea Party protests. It is not enough that we have a system of government that allows them free speech for their beliefs but they take it further to shut down the government if they cannot get their way without any regard of the overall damage. They are also willing to do this damage without understanding the mechanics of the law or even offering other ideas.

    They remind me of the Taliban.

    • ladynred

      You people criticizing the Tea Party don’t know what you’re talking about. Obamacare is a disaster. Even some of the Democrats have admitted it, but they will still back Obama to protect him and his reputation (what’s left of it after Putin made a fool of him). The TP are Christian people who care about saving our country. We read up on what is going on in the country and don’t depend on the DEM talking points for info.

      • 1941641

        Read the Conservative News Media occasionally and you’ll be better informed about the relationship between the Tea Party and the GOP. Both come short of representing the Christianity preached by Jesus Christ. Just follow Jesus teaching compared to TP/GOP politics and you will notice for yourself.

        • ladynred

          You somehow don’t sound like an authority on Jesus.

          • FrereJocques

            Really. He’s more of one than you are. One of the most oft-repeated admonitions in the Bible is to not oppress the poor. Yet that is what the Repugnicants/Tee Pee-ers want to do. Take away food stamps. Take away welfare. No affordable health insurance. Less money to public schools. The list goes on and on.

      • FrereJocques

        Although it doesn’t make a good acronym, Tee Pee-ers are CINO: Christian in name only. They have amply demonstrated they care about NOTHING but themselves. They want to save the country, all right–for themselves.

        • olereb

          At least the Tea Party has a point of view for where this country should be headed….compared to the Democratic party and Obama who is putting this country down the tube. I think AC/DC said it best “We are on the highway to Hell” We need to wake up and do what is best for this country…when over the majority of the people do not want ObamaCare shoved down their throats and it is being shoveled down our throats. It is time for change in Washington!

          • FrereJocques

            “At least the Tea Party has a point of view for where this
            country should be headed.”

            Indeed it does—straight back to the 19th century.
            When people died from easily treated (today) diseases, people starved to death,
            people worked themselves to death, no convenient transportation, no long-distance
            communication, primitive schools with no textbooks, the list goes on and on.
            These are all goals of the Tee Pee Party. No affordable health insurance,
            medical care for the wealthy only, no food stamps, no highway maintenance, no
            public schools, no civil rights for minorities, and the Federal Government
            subservient to the States.

            I see through your claims of “we just want to reduce taxes”.
            You want to end the Federal Government as you know it, and replace it with
            anarchy under the banner of “States’ Rights”. Sorry, we’ve already BTDT, we
            bought the T-shirt, and we’re not interested.

    • 1941641

      The American Taliban and the American Tea Party are very similar. You can hardly tell one from the other. Talibanis and Tea Partiers are like two peas in a pod.

      • ladynred

        Obama would know about the Taliban and all the Muslim Brotherhood. Heck, his brother is one of the main leaders of the Brotherhood and Obama is a closet one himself. Why do you think he helps them all the time by giving them weapons and OUR TAXPAYER MONEY? So, you want to compare the TP, who is for limited government, people taking responsibility for their own actions, staying within a budget, and not giving money and weapons to our enemies, keeping our borders secure, voter ID to make sure our elections are fair–you want to compare the TP to the Taliban. Well, that is very 5th-graderish of you.

        • Thile

          “President = SEEKRIT MOZLIM!!11!!tty!!!”
          “ERMAHGERD VOTER FRAUD!!”
          “LIMITED GOVERNMENT!!11!

          *fills in final 3 squares on teapotty bingo card* YAY!

        • 1941641

          “Ladynred” you are a pathetic human being. Try “Lady In Black” and see how much better that works out for you.And try to keep Fox News and Limbaugh and the AFA turned off. You are becoming your own Conservative monster!

          • ladynred

            What no answers, just names? Figures. When you can’t argue with facts, resort to other things.

          • 1941641

            Are you a factual person? How can that be?

          • ladynred

            I love it when trolls get all riled up.

          • olereb

            Seems to me you cannot answer LADYNRED rebuttal to your post from earlier. Better FoxNews than CNN….Better Limbaugh than James Carniegh…better AFA than liberal radio. Two words 1941641..”BITE ME”

  • DoubleTalk

    Off the bat, I will repeat what I said in the beginning of this. Any time government requires something, the price will go up, not down. We see what the result is.

    That said, Jesus Christ never charged anyone for healing the sick that I recall. He did not benefit financially in any way personally. Can’t say that about the current folks.

    Obamacare seems to be another good idea that was used politically by those in office at a strategic time to bolster election/re election. As we are finding, it has many hidden agendas including the cost increases of 50% and more in some areas. Like taxes, once it is up, don’t look for it to go down.

    Obamacare is a bad plan with a good thought. Let the government get involved in anything and they will screw it up. Keep falling for the same lame dog and pony shows and you will keep getting the same folks with the same hidden agendas.

    • FrereJocques

      There are NUMEROUS stories in the news where it has been
      determined that Obamacare has REDUCED health-care costs for many people.
      Undoubtedly some costs have gone up, but that is not a hard and fast rule.
      Obamacare has not been given a fair trial yet.

      Jesus was not working for an HMO, or a hospital, or a
      clinic, or an insurance company. He healed through miracles, not medicine.
      Unfortunately, Jesus is not here on Earth to heal people today. But he left a directive
      to His followers to continue the work He did. No one today claims to heal
      people with miracles except a few charlatan preachers. But His work can still
      be pursued by helping those obtain decent medical care who cannot help
      themselves. As opposed to the Tee Pee-ers, whose solution to the lack of
      medical care is, if you get sick, then die quickly before you become a burden
      to us.

      • ladynred

        You sound just like the Dem Talking Points–”Oh, those nasty Republicans just want to throw granny over the cliff and don’t care about poor little children, blah, blah, blah”. Just because we have sense enough to know a snake oil salesman when we see him does not mean we want people to die. People like you are pathetic.

        • Thile

          “Dem talking points”–then reciting Repub talking points to make rickety argument. *blots in another square on teapotty bingo card*

          • ladynred

            Don’t come crying to the Tea Party when your guy puts the country in bankruptcy. I’m through trying to reason with you people.

          • Thile

            What reasoning have you presented?

        • countrydawg

          You wanna talk snake-oil salesmen and saleswomen? Remember when the RNC got caught describing their base as “reactionary, ego-driven and motivated by fear”? These poor people have their pockets picked on a regular basis by the Becks and Palins and Levins and O’Reillys and all of the other fear-mongering grifters that make their living lying and picking the pockets of the faithful.

          It’s amazing how badly people like ladyoffhermeds want to believe this crap.

          And the funny thing is, the rubes are using their hard-earned money, to fight against the very health care that might help them and their families. Look at the state of Mississippi, for example.

          Just another example of the Conservative base, as being “Chickens 4 Col. Sanders!!!” or as the teahadists have put it, “Keep Your Government Hands off My Medicare!”

          • ladynred

            Remember when the DNC voted God out 3 TIMES?

          • 1941641

            Wasn’t that the time God forgot to bring along his voter ID Card to the meeting?

          • ladynred

            Now that you mention IDs, isn’t it funny that you have to have an ID to go to the DNC or any event that the Dems do, but you don’t have to show ID to vote. I recall an event that Holder was involved in and reading that you had to have a photo ID to get into the event. Imagine that! Isn’t that a little hypocritical?

          • 1941641

            Apparently, ladynred, you have let Fox News, AFA and Limpbaugh take control of your mind. You are starting to sound a little brain dead!/Confused!

          • ladynred

            So, you like Chrissy (thrill up his leg) Matthews?

          • ladynred

            You must like Chrissy (thrill up his leg) Matthews.

          • ladynred

            You didn’t answer the question–isn’t that being hypocritical to REQUIRE ID at a Dem event?

          • guest

            Last time I checked going to see the Attorney General speak was not a guaranteed constitutional right where voting in the USA is.

          • ladynred

            Can you please tell me how showing an ID to vote is “voter suppression”. Are you going to argue like the Dems in Congress that people are too stupid or lazy to go get an ID? I would be embarrassed to be in a party that puts me down like that by saying I am too lazy to get an ID. These people who supposedly can’t go get an ID to vote, are going to have to show ID to buy alcohol or sign up for welfare, open a bank account, see a doctor. Are you going to tell me that these people don’t do these things?

          • guest

            I can go to any gun show in this country and buy unlimited guns, rifles and shotguns without showing my ID – why should I voting at the precinct where I have been voting for the last 20 years?

    • Winston Smith

      This is pretty much how I feel. I think the Affordable Care Act started as something good, and by the time it was implemented, accomplished the exact opposite of what it set out to do. There’s so much conflicting data on whether or not Obamacare is going to help or hurt us, I can’t determine who’s right. I’ve talked to physicians about it, and they seem just as split. I think whenever you inject politics into a business as massive and corrupt as the insurance companies you’re going to end up with a mess.

      To sum up my feelings, I agreed with the president that something needed to be done about healthcare in America. But I don’t believe this act accomplishes much.

      • ladynred

        And do we really want the IRS in charge of anything concerning our health insurance? They have shown they are irresponsible and can’t be trusted with anything. They are spending our money on all kinds of idiotic things.

  • 1941641

    The Tea Partyers want Republican Rep. Alan Nonelee to help smash Obama Care so it can never rise off the floor again. Never, regardless of how many millions of Americans are anxiously awaiting its full implementation. Among those people living in hopes of having some semblance of health insurance are, I dare say, quite a few who boast to the world about being part of the American Tea Party Stock. But, wouldn’t we all be surprised to learn that they don’t have any insurance either? Apparently, they are waiting to get seriously sick or mildly ill so they can run down to their local hospital and be taken care of fully and without question by funds supplied with the blessings of the more affluent and more humane in our society. (I don’t want to leave the Mississippi governor out of this commentary so I’ll pick up on him later concerning “Medicaid.”)

    The Tea Party, as I see it, comprises the crux of Nonelee’s Political Base. Without them, he will follow along the same path out the doors of congress that the Rep. from Booneville departed through after this next election cycle.This is the scene I envision for Nonelee: if he fails to adhere to the demands of his politically charged base, just think of the severity of the disaster: friends, family, politicians, preachers, neighbors, the whole nine yards will casually walk away in favor of the newly elected representative that follows. A failed, disheartened former elected politician is like a man without a country in so many ways.

    But there is still hope, Mr. Nonelee: Just grit your teeth, clinch your fists and defy all advice and reason offered to you by your friends in congress and elsewhere. After all, sir, you are the Man, who, more than any other in America wants to deal Obamacare a Final Blow with the Tea Party standing at your back protecting you and representing your personal, political base. Like the car salesman from Columbus, MS, “I wouldn’t fib to you,” Alan!

  • TWBDB

    Just so happens I sat in on a bioscience organization meeting today (not MS)- – in layman’s terms, these are the doctors, investors, diagnostic equipment, researchers, etc. responsible for bringing you health care.

    Did you know that the USA ranks 37th in health care? Did you know that 36% of those normally available to serve in the military can’t possibly serve due to health concerns, mostly preventative metabolic disorders? Did you know that Medicare actually pays out more in ‘reimbursement’ care than private industry?

    These professionals in the field – the entrepreneurs who aren’t planning on political agendas but actually thinking about our national security, how we can move our ranking up from 37th, how health care costs can actually be reduced in the long-term – aren’t talking about repealing Obamacare – are certainly worried about the funding affects – but then are spending their energies figuring out how to thrive in this new economy and serve the nations needs.

    They are definitely optimistic. Why? They are encouraged by the movement from ‘sickness care’ which is what we have now to ‘health care’ that proposed by the progressive health care movement. Why? Because ‘health care’ is far more manageable in the long term and it actually encourages private industry to work toward improving the quality of people’s health rather than banking on their misery.

    Then we have the Tea Party – - marching their children around with signs they couldn’t possibly have the breadth of knowledge to understand – - encouraging political pandering on the higher levels to cut funding and inject more infighting and uncertainty into a market that’s ready to move forward.

    • ladynred

      Oh, pleeeeaaaase. Wait till Obama’s death panels kick in and your grandma is put out to pasture because they think she’s not worth treating, then get back to me on the healthcare issue.

      • Thile

        Death panels reference! *blots in circle on Teapotty bingo card*

      • TWBDB

        Ridiculous! You really don’t get it ladynred. Government programs already provide end of life care that private insurance refuses to pay for. I could easily tell you personal stories of my own parents and grandparents suffering from preventable disease. My grandparents I can understand – they died years ago – before we knew better. Now we do, but private insurance won’t pay for the tests required for early detection.

  • 1941641

    Updated Article On Obama Care:GOP/Tea PARTY

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/lindsey-graham-tea-party-obamacare_n_3944833.html

    Go ahead, Nonelee, and shut the government completely down. The Tea Party secures your back!

  • guest

    Rational Americans need to wake up and show that we will not tolerate these Tea Party radicals to run the dialogue in our politics anymore. We need to demand that our press not cover or legitimize their ranting.

    Rational Americans need to see the fallacy of the mindset of those who are “anti” government telling us how government should function. They speak in the abstract and cannot translate their ideals into public policy or just wish to make people live in a fashion they believe they should live. The Tea Party asks us to forget that we are a government of the people for the people – remember that next time they yell to reduce government.

    The Tea Party influence has made our government more dysfunctional than it has ever been and the only sections of our society benefiting from this are the large corporations and the extremely wealthy. Their ignorance of government and public policy is only equaled by their unabashed desire to try any radical disturbance to get attention. A destructive combonation for sure.

    Wake up!

    • Winston Smith

      So what exactly do you suggest?

      • ladynred

        These people don’t SUGGEST. They just like to name call and spout hatred. They don’t have any answers. They just LOVE their man.

        • FrereJocques

          …said the kettle to the pot.

      • guest

        @ Winston Smith
        I think that is a very reasonable question with a very difficult answer. IMO the Tea Party is a reactionary group that is not looking very far down the road. How they get rid of the AHCA does not matter they just want it gone regardless of the damage – the full faith and credit of the United States. They don’t care (or understand) the needless damage to millions of American families. The entire “hostage” process goes against anything our founding fathers designed for our system of government. They will do this over a “belief” without working through our system of laws / government as it was designed. They have wasted millions of dollars and brought the US Congress to a dysfunctional mess without even offering anything different or even better.

        The AHCA is on automatic appropriations – it cannot be defunded without passing a law – that is the base fact this group refuses to acknowledge – it is reality they choose to ignore.

        I am sorry I cannot give you a straight answer to your question – I don’t know how to work with a group that does not see the reality in front of them. That is willing to lie, distort and mislead on an issue that they “believe” is wrong. They don’t wish to work within the system or even respect it. Rational Americans are just going to have to stand up and get involved – we are going to have to make it know that we will not tolerate this.

        • Winston Smith

          All I’m saying is that, right or wrong, they do seem to be working within the system. They put pressure on politicians to advance their agenda. I think the problem is, and this touches on the last point you made, is that the vast majority of people don’t care enough to carry a sign, or call their representatives. Once an official gets elected, unless their constituents raise a fuss, they can do whatever they want. I agree with you in the sense that we all need to get more involved with our government, and create a real representative democracy and not this good ol boy plutocracy that’s been in effect for most of the USA’s modern history.

          • guest

            I would agree that they are in the system but they are certainly not working in the system. The perfect example is their tying the defunding of the AHCA to raising the debt limit. They hold the minority position in Washington with no chance of it passing only to damage the faith and credit of the USA – the first time in our history. They are holding a belief that they are so right that they will harm millions of Americans and affect economies all over the world if their beliefs are not followed.

            You can go throughout history and give me one example of any reactionary group within a government that worked out for a society. The hubris in thinking that you are so right that if everyone doesn’t follow you or do what you say that you will bring the whole system down – that is just as dangerous as it can be.

          • ladynred

            So, do you believe we should just keep raising the debt ceiling and not try to cut spending? You want your children and grandchildren to live with the debt our generation is creating?

          • guest

            The raising of the debt limit is agreeing to pay for goods and services that Congress has already agreed to purchase. To put it in simpler terms for you to understand it would be like a couple buying a house and then the husband doesn’t like the wife spending money on groceries so he allows the house to go into foreclosure by not paying the house note.

            There is no rational defense for not raising the debt ceiling.

          • FrereJocques

            The answer to the National Debt is to fix the economy. When people are able to work, they are earning and are able to spend money. We also need to get out of the business of being the world’s policeman. Trillions of dollars spent foolishly in the Middle East. Those trillions could have been better spent back home.

          • guest

            I agree with what you say but the fact is that there will always be debt – we have basically had debt since our country began. The issue IMHO is to discuss debt in context to GDP, US overseas assets and US bond rates since the debt is how we structure our money. It makes since that our debt would increase during slow economic times and it should drop during good times (i.e. Clinton years). For some reasons the Republicans said the deficits did not matter during the Bush years while they were slashing tax rates for the wealthy – (see how well that worked out).

            People / Politicians who discuss debt in blanket or bumper sticker terms or either confused themselves or trying to confuse you.

          • ladynred

            Neither party has done enough to address the debt situation. What kills me is the amount of WASTE in the government. I have seen it firsthand.

          • ladynred

            That is one answer. At least we can agree on something.

  • ladynred

    There are two things that will be the downfall of our country–Obamacare, if it is put into effect because the cost is staggering and the fact that it hurts the people that it was supposed to help—and illegal immigration. Illegal aliens are a steady drain on the taxpayers. That is part of the reason we are in the current economic mess. Too many American are out of work and this administration wants to keep bringing more illegals in to take jobs. Illegals also are on welfare, food stamps, and get free medical care. We can’t continue all these programs and service when HALF of the country is out of work.

    • guest

      Really ?????????

      The downfall of the US? Our population is well over 316,000,000 people with a GDP of over 15,684,800,000,000 and you think just maybe 15-20 million illegal’s are going to ruin us? They could all be on welfare and it not be a blip – but then they are all not on welfare.

      Also one does not even have to agree with the AHCA to understand that it is a mandate to structure Health Insurance – the State of Massachusetts has been under an insurance mandate for over ten years and they have not fallen into the Atlantic. A structured insurance system could hardly bring down a country our size. Sure it may or may not work but the path we were on was worse and it certainly will not be our downfall.

      Half the country is out of work? I just have no reply to that – that was hardly a rational statement.

      Please try to understand the issues in context – it is the only way we can begin to fix the problems.

      • ladynred

        With the 20 million or more illegals ALREADY HERE, plus the millions more who will be coming once amnesty is given because they smell freebies in the air, our welfare system will be collapsed. If you enjoy paying for illegals so much, maybe you can invite them all to your house for YOU to take care of??

    • Thile

      ladyoffhermeds’s post is a fine example of her ilk’s inherent, deep-rooted opposition to “the other.” The GOP has successfully painted Obama as “the other” — his name is weird, he looks different, he’s lived abroad. It’s the oldest play in our history, blaming “the other” for your lot in life. Two hundred years ago, it was the Irish, Polish and Italian immigrants who were “the other.” Vote for me and I’ll make sure they don’t take your jobs! Then it was the blacks — if they’re freed from slavery, they’ll get uppity and take your jobs! Vote for me and I’ll keep them in their place. Then it was people from various Asian countries, coming over to alter our way of life. Vote for me and I’ll make sure we aren’t all speaking Chinese! And of course, now it’s Mexicans who are supposedly crossing our borders at record speed and taking all the jobs. Vote for me and I’ll keep them out!

      The modern GOP has always used fear of “the other” to manipulate poor, working whites into thinking they had a friend in them. Remember — before LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, most of the south (and many, many working class whites) were actually Democrats. But once the gov’t mandated that blacks be allowed basic civil rights, those people became afraid of what would come…and angry that their way of life was being upturned. And the GOP played on those fears. They did then and they do now. “The takers” will always be minorities to the GOP — if you’re poor and black or Hispanic, it’s because you’re lazy and don’t work hard enough and want everything for free. But if you’re poor and white, it’s because “the other” took your job and left you with nothing. And the rubes like ladyoffhermeds take the bait each time.

      • ladynred

        MLK was a Republican. Republicans were the ones who took care of getting civil rights for blacks, so go try to sell your propaganda to someone else. I actually feel sorry for you. I take that back, I feel sorry for people who actually believe the kind of stuff you’re pushing as “facts”.

        • Thile

          You trot out the pitiful “MLK WUZ A REPUBLICAN” tripe? Gosh I just won 2 Teapotty Bingo games in the same thread, you guys!

          Here are some pointed questions for morons insisting that the republican party is responsible for civil rights, as layoffhermeds insists:

          1) Who were the “dixiecrats” and what happened to them in the past 50 years?

          2) Where are they now?

          3) Who was the republican presidential nominee in 1964 and did he vote for or against the CRA?

          4) Who was Strom Thurmond and why did he leave the democratic party?

          5) who was George Wallace and why did he leave the democratic party?

          6) (if your correspondent is from the south) Who did your parents and grandparents vote for, did they support the CRA, and why are they voting republican today?

          7) Who do you think you’re fooling?

        • 1941641

          “MLK was a Republican. Republicans were the ones who took care of getting civil rights for blacks, so go try to sell your propaganda to someone else…”

          Get back on your meds, ladynred!!!

    • FrereJocques

      “illegal immigration. Illegal aliens are a steady drain on the taxpayers.
      That is part of the reason we are in the current economic mess. Too
      many American are out of work and this administration wants to keep
      bringing more illegals in to take jobs.”

      Hate to burst your bubble, but you are wrong, wrong, WRONG. Americans will not take jobs working in the fields harvesting crops and doing the hard manual labor. It was discovered recently in Alabama, when strict laws against immigrants were passed, and farmers could not find workers to go into the fields.

      Another Tea Pee claim shot down.

      • ladynred

        Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but illegals are not just coming here to work in the fields these days. They have taken over construction industry, landscaping, etc. I’ve heard construction people complain about not being able to get jobs because the illegals come in and work for less and of course the contractors will hire the cheapest people they can find—no matter if they are qualified or can do a good job. They also are going to COLLEGE, so don’t you think they’ll be taking higher level jobs once they get educated?

        • guest

          I thought you said that they were all here for the free welfare?

          • ladynred

            A lot of them are. That’s why our hospitals are in trouble–they go there and get FREE healthcare, while you and I have to pay. Some of them work under the table for CASH and still get welfare.

        • Winston Smith

          I tend to blame the employers that are hiring the illegals more than the illegals themselves. If I was born in Mexico, I’d jump the border first chance I got.

          • ladynred

            I agree that employers are to blame, also. They should be severely punished for encouraging more illegal immigration.

  • 1941641

    LOL! Olereb, with that big, wide, loud mouth you have been blessed with and the narrow brain to match it, you can BITE your own self with a minimal of effort. My advice to you is: be real careful while you’re taking a BIG BITE Of Yourself and not allow a BIG trailer truck to run over you! Cause then, Ladynred would be very sad!

    • ladynred

      LOL. Showing a real good thought-provoking analysis. It is hilarious to see the comments.

  • DoubleTalk

    Well, announced today was over 1000 jobs cut at Vanderbelt Hospital and 3000 plus at Cleveland Clinic through early retirement or….you know the other choice. All in prep for whats coming.

    Now you will notice the high paid administrators are not cutting their salaries or jobs……just the peons.

    Stay tuned……more to come to a local facility/employer near you.

    • TWBDB

      “Jeffrey Balser is head of the medical center. He said factors for the job cuts include a lack of Medicaid expansion in Tennessee and a reduction in National Institutes of Health grant funding.”

      Vanderbilt and the Cleveland Clinic are research hospitals.

      Those looking forward in medicine see a reduced need for the critical care given by hospitals as we increase preventative health care maintenance. Less ER staff required, etc.

      • FrereJocques

        But the Tee Pee-ers don’t see OR UNDERSTAND that. They don’t want to. It disproves their agenda. They just want you to think that people are losing their jobs. Never mind that many will be hired in the new upcoming medical regime once it gets under way.

      • DoubleTalk

        If the existing Medicaid has supported these workers why would no expansion cause them to loose their jobs ? Better yet, why not look at increasing Medicaid collections, eliminate the Insurance Middle Man costs and give folks health care at a reduced cost to them and others ? Too many easier, less costly ways to provide health care without padding someones pocket.

        For me, the calculator says……..up, up and away for increased insurance premiums, through the program or private carrier yet I have never used what I have been paying for. Everything has been pretty much out of pocket.

        Pie in the sky jobs in the future ? We see how thats been working.

        • TWBDB

          Again, both Vanderbilt and Cleveland Clinic are research insitutions heavily dependent on NIH funding. In both cases, they plan to reduce their overall workforce by roughly 5%. On the other hand, the same reorg of our national approach to health care will create jobs in preventative care and it’s maintenance which will not be critical care (hospital – sickness care) centric

        • TWBDB

          Let’s look at the telephone industry as an example – 15 years ago, did you think virtually everyone would be carrying around a personal, portable cell phone on which we can talk, send messages, do business, etc. Now fast forward a year, those same cell phones – or devices similar will take your heart rate, your blood pressure, oxygen levels, etc – critical information to monitor your health in real time. The way in which we manage our health is about to undergo an enormous revolution; just like cell phones, health information will become an essential (expected) component of our life. That’s what I predict.

          • DoubleTalk

            I have a friend that has to have his battery/pace maker checked. It cost him more to have it done over the phone than an office visit. The phone method requires monthly, the office method quarterly.

            I find it odd some will say …foul it doesn’t meet someones agenda but go rabid because someone disagrees with their agenda.

            I hate it but there are other ways to give healthcare without padding certain interest groups pockets and the other hidden agendas in ObameeCare

  • ladynred

    I worry about our country because there is so much misinformation out there. So much lying by our government and some people take it as the gospel truth.

    • TWBDB

      I have to agree with you. We The People are far too bombarded with misinformation from government and the media; both Democrat and Republican friendly. And there are far too many people who take that misinformation as gospel. Ladynred, your comments indicate that you are one of those people.

  • ladynred

    I wish we could have CIVIL conversations. Can we at least agree that we all need to PRAY for our country and pray for our leaders to make the right decisions–ones that help ALL people and not just their cronies?

    • TWBDB

      If you want to have civil conversations ladynred; stop being antagonistic. If you wish to pray, then by all means do so, as most of us do in our own way. It’s humbling to pray for ‘what’s best for the nation’ and accept this may not be what we peronally wish for.

      • ladynred

        ME antagonistic? Would you look at the very first comment on this news article–it was comparing the Tea Party to the Taliban. I was simply defending our position.

        • TWBDB

          That poster did compare the Tea Party to the Taliban – - I didn’t.
          At the time of my first post, I was literally on break at a bioscience organization meeting on the West Coast. At that point, I’d been listening for two days as leaders in the pharmaceutical and health care industries spoke openly with biotech and diagnostic consumable and device entrepreneurs about the emerging demographic market , federal, state, and private insurance ‘reimbursement’ criteria, and successful regional environments in which to start new businesses – bring in high-tech jobs.
          The Affordable Health Care Act was certainly a topic of discussion; so were tax breaks and best cultural environments to conduct business. There were definitely aspects of the AHCA they hoped to get changed: but thrown out, no way. The unified coding systems of record keeping, the national switch from ‘sickness care’ to ‘personalized – preventative care’, and real facts about the health benefits of the AHCA’s reimbursement processes as compared to the private model we have today. In terms of choosing the right location for start-ups, tax breaks fell far behind the density of an educated work force, a collaborative academic environment, counter-intuitive cultural and political opposition, etc.
          Ladynred, you responded to my post with something like ‘Oh please, just wait till they deny medical treatment to your dying grandmother’.
          So yeah, a CIVIL conversation requires mutual respect of opposing viewpoints and the open-mindedness necessary to actually listen and try to understand from where the participants speak.

  • barney fife

    Faux sNooze & the tea depression (ain’t no party) can only say “NO” to everything.
    Well, we all know how well saying “NO” worked for Nancy Reagan’s anti-drug campaign.
    Nunnelee is but a puppet. He may as well have a ventriloquist behind him as nothing original comes out of his mouth.

  • 1941641

    “Goofus” Nonelee and his friends in the Tea Party/Religious Right, so it seems today, may have GOOFED UP royaly!