Man jailed after bombing at Tupelo Walmart

LEONARD

LEONARD

By William Moore

Daily Journal

TUPELO – A Tupelo man is facing life behind bars after allegedly setting off an explosive at Walmart early Sunday morning.

Marshall W. Leonard, 61, of Tupelo, was arrested and will be charged placing an explosive device. Mississippi Code 97-37-25 carries up to life in prison if convicted.

Tupelo Police Chief Bart Aguirre said a vehicle pulled up to the night entrance of the North Gloster Walmart around 1:30 a.m.

“A white male got out, lit the package and threw it in the vestibule,” Aguirre said. “There was an employee on break, and the suspect told him, ‘You better run.’

“The employee did run and was away from harm when the package went off. It wasn’t a large explosion. It didn’t cause a lot of damage to the store.”

No one was injured in the incident. The remnants of the homemade explosive device have been sent to the crime lab for further examination.

Leonard was a strong supporter of the Mississippi flag and railed against anyone who wanted it pulled because it contained the Confederate battle flag. In the past, he spoke out against Walmart when the retail giant decided to stop selling items in its stores that contained the Confederate battle flag.

Last Wednesday, Leonard posted threats on the Daily Journal Facebook page.

“Journal corporate, you are on final warning,” he wrote Oct. 28. “You are part of the problem. As a result of this, y’all are going down, along with Walmart, WTVA, Reeds department store, and all the rest of the anti-American crooks. I’m not kidding. No messing around anymore!”

It was the state flag that led to his arrest. An officer in the area spotted a small silver car with a huge Mississippi flag sticking up through the sun roof run the red light in front of Walmart.

“The officer pulled him over for the traffic violation, but when the calls started coming in, we quickly figured out we needed to hang on to this suspect,” Aguirre said. “We still have some more interviews to do and still need to search his car before we take him in front of a judge Tuesday.”

Officials are still waiting to get details of Leonard’s prior criminal history in Illinois and Wisconsin.

william.moore@journalinc.com

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  • Thile

    Another confederate flag supporter in trouble with the law. Seems like a pattern. I do hope those media outlets and stores take his threats seriously, press charges, and he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    Cletus, you still think your buddies are innocent?

    • DWarren

      Don’t worry, Thile. Right of center terrorists are always prosecuted and put in prison. Left of center terrorists become cause celebres.

      • Rob Anderson

        WaWaWa. Own your ignorance and MAN up you made another mistake.

        • DWarren

          That’s a good one Rob. I haven’t heard it since I was six or seven years old. Thanks for the nostalgic trip down memory lane to early childhood.

          • Rob Anderson

            Well congratulation on being on being 7 & 3/4 yrs. You’re a big boy now., go play w/ your toy soldiers while we adults have a rational conversation.

          • DWarren

            Rob, you stand in desperate need of more rationality in your conversation. The days when belittling a person whom you perceive to hold traditional values as a means of silencing that traditional person are over. National Review, The Internet, talk radio, Fox News, etc. have broken the monopoly of the Left on the nation’s conversations. Deal with it, Rob. You are going to be encountering many more traditional values people and be required to engage them in a logical and factual debate of the issues. Ad hominem attacks will no longer deter us.

          • Rob Anderson

            The traditional vale of your ilk is based on, hate, fear, theocracy, oligarchy, mercantilism , monopoly. While my is based on Hope, change, diversity, The Social Contract of Locke, Jefferson, the Founding Fathers,that Is the Preamble or opening Sentence of the Constitution. Your anti American rant, has a a solution, just self deport. Try the M.E.

          • DWarren

            Rob, “diversity” is the leftist code word for exclusion from the public forum of traditional values persons.

          • Rob Anderson

            Bet you can’t support your lies w/ facts, data, or Proof. Prove me incorrect or you are proving to all your are a foolish lemming that spreads propaganda talking points from fox like you spread manure . Nice try, Gotcha!

          • DWarren

            Well, here’s a fact for you: 96% of the faculty at Cornell University donated to leftist Democrats, and you call that “diversity.” Were 96% of the faculty at Ole Miss to donate to Republicans, would you call that “diversity”? Note the former question is couched grammatically in such a way as to assume that there is no possibility of it being true. Come back when you have determined the percentage of faculty at Southern Miss and Ole Miss who lean “left,” and we’ll discuss “diversity” further.

          • Rob Anderson

            Two factors you neglected. 1) Non christian Higher education is based on rational & critical thought skills, of fact data & proof. 2) What is the donation rate of “Xtrian school “to republicans & democrats candidates? Your schools are based on dogma,blind indoctrination, fake faith with complete disregard for, facts or proof. Typical foolishness.

          • DWarren

            Your assertion that secular education is based on rationality and critical thought cannot be demonstrated by the facts, data, proofs, or history. Your atheistic worldview rests firmly on Darwin’s theory of evolution that begins with the premise that everything evolved from nothing by random chance and natural selection with no intervening originating cause. Have you ever read Darwin’s seminal work first published in 1859: ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES BY MEANS OF NATURAL SELECTION, OR THE PRESERVATION OF FAVORED RACES IN THE STRUGGLE FOR LIFE? I have. And I didn’t even get past the title before taking exception with his insinuation that “favored races” are preserved by natural selection. Darwin was a British subject who viewed the British as the favored and only race deserving preservation. The title itself perpetuates the British bigotry against every other nation (including the United States of America). In Mr. Darwin’s view you and I both are subhuman evolutionary missteps who merit extinction for the good and well-being of his “favored race.” Darwin himself asserts that unless a fossil record of transmutations from one species to another is forthcoming that his work should be discarded as scientifically untenable. Do enlighten me regarding the total number of “missing links” between species transmutation that have been documented to date. Are you aware of the many frauds that have been perpetrated on the scientific community to prop up what you view as enlightened secular science? You might want to research: Earnst Haeckels embryo fraud and how his misconduct cost him his professorship; Piltdown Man fraud; Nebraska Man’s pig tooth fraud; Java Man fraud; Neanderthal Man dating fraud (which resulted in Prof. Reiner Protsch being forced to resign on Feb. 18, 2005 from Frankfurt University for fabricating data and plagiarizing); and the Lucy deception stated mildly by geologist Frank Brown as, “We’ve always ASSUMED Lucy was our ancestor; but now, we need to re-evaluate that IDEA;” ad. infinitum. Absent facts, data, proofs, and historical substantiation, secular atheism is as much a “faith-based” worldview as Judaism, Christianity, etc. (with of course the glaring reality that objective scientific archeology has repeatedly confirmed, substantiated, and validated the historical reliability of the Bible).
            And SCOTUS’s 1961 decision in the Torcaso v. Watkins Case declared by judicial fiat that atheism is indeed a faith-based religion in the United States of America. In my experience many atheists are much more devout practitioners of their faith-based religion (including rigidly enforced dogmas, evangelistic proselytism, and concentrated apologies) than are many professed followers of theistic faith-based religions. So, your arbitrary line of demarcation between secular higher education and what your perceive as Christian higher education is specious.
            But even if a dichotomy between secular higher education and Christian higher education were admissible to the debate, the fact that you favor coercing others to accept, abide by, and financially support with tax money the Left’s newspeak definition of “diversity” still abides as a legitimate issue with reference to the attitudes and actions that resulted in Ole Miss and Southern Miss unilaterally taking down the state flag that was chosen by two out of three Mississippians in a valid, certified, state-wide referendum.

          • Rob Anderson

            By the way moron, Cornell is a secular school based on science ,reason, thus thinking people will support proven facts & data. You myth believers can’t accept data, & proof, just parrot blind ignorance from fox & Koch puppeteers . Your ilk refuses to accept fact supported data. Bless your little mind controlled witless brain. Your nazi fascism has been defeated everywhere but w/ ISIL, so go join them.

          • Cletus Snow

            I think that one went way over his head, Mr. Warren. Better dumb it down a little more.
            While Robbie is fantasizing over the Koch brothers, I found an interesting nugget of information earlier today. You being the astute researcher that you are, I’ll leave it to you to find out more on the subject and get your take on all this Koch brothers’ bashing. Obama nixed the pipeline deal, right? Did you know that the vast majority of that oil now moves by train, and just one rail company in particular. Guess which company, then see if the pot is calling the kettle black.
            Always a pleasure watching these people attempt to match wits with you.

          • DWarren

            I don’t think I can make it simple enough for Rob to comprehend, Mr. Snow. In the words of that great American philosopher, Clint Eastwood portraying Dirty Harry Callahan, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” Rob reminds me of the two good ole boy shade tree mechanics with their heads under the hood of an automobile out in the front yard. Bubba was attempting a simplified explanation of the intricate mechanics of the internal combustion engine to Billy Bob. Billy Bob kept interrupting and asking questions. Finally, exasperated, Bubba yelled, “Dad gum it, Billy Bob! The more I try to learn you, the dumber I get!”
            You are 100% correct that Obama’s rejection of the XL Pipeline is a case study in liberal hypocrisy. If we could invent cars, semis, planes, trains, and power plants that run on the alternative fuel of liberal hypocrisy, the energy problem would be solved forever. Liberal hypocrisy is the nation’s most abundant natural resource. First of all, the leftist Democrat president took seven years to make a decision. Slow thought and no thought are habitual hallmarks of the Left. Leftists can dive down deeper, stay down longer, and come up dryer and dumber than any other group–bar none. Perhaps the reason the president made bad decisions about Obama Care, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Benghazi, Isis, et. al. is that he was wrestling exclusively with the XL Pipeline decision day and night for seven years. After all, the pipeline is closer to home, and it concerns those repulsive fossil fuels that are responsible for global warming. Of course, the thought that never appears to have occurred to him is – if we are all beheaded or blown up by terrorists, what pragmatic difference will it make how warm or cold the globe gets in our absence.
            The president’s delayed decision exclusively benefits Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway rail line which hauls the oil on box cars that would have been transported through the XL Pipeline. It is a demonstrable fact that Mr. Buffett is one of Pres. Obama’s and the Democrat Left’s biggest financial contributors–not to mention one of the most one percent of the despised one percenters. Second, have you ever noticed how Leftists love crony capitalism when it puts money into their loony Left coffers, but hate profit making enterprises that contribute to what the Left considers right of center politicians or policy initiatives? It’s one of those things that makes a thinking person go “hummm.”
            I freely admit that I did not think about it exclusively for seven long years a la Pres. Obama, but I’ll opine anyway. The Left must invent boggeymen in order to demonize their political opponents for several reasons. First, it’s standard operating procedure for every Leftist movement that has ever inflicted itself on any community anywhere in the world. It’s that class warfare thing being manifested. What the comrade fellow travelers are always too dumb to learn is that once the Left achieves its goal of political power, the first people rounded up and executed are the very fellow travelers who helped them come to power. I can only surmise that the reason is the Left knows that if they were stupid enough to help the Left gain power, they are too dumb to serve any useful purpose going forward. That’s why the Left refers to such persons as “useful idiots.”
            Second, the Left’s Messiah complex results in a natural knee jerk disdain for any person, group, or policy that the Left views as a potential threat to its manifest destiny of world conquest and global domination. Against all the evidence of history and every leftist regime’s dismal failure to do so, the Left’s true believers are convinced that they are on a mission from their god Marx to establish a global, socialist, utopian paradise. Those of us who point out to them that an equal share of nothing is–well–nothing are looked upon as unwelcome speed bumps on the road to worldwide totalitarianism. Third, its a fact of life that any organization has to have money to operate. Until such a time that the Left is able successfully to seize all resources as state property, the Left is dependent on the largess of like-minded devotees to statism. The Left views donors to the leftist cause in much the same way an unethical, charlatan televangelist views his or her donors—a means to an end. The Left’s heroes include those who make large monetary contributions like Buffett. The most dangerous leftist deep-pockets, in my humble opinion, include George Soros and Tom Steyer. Facts won’t dent the thick skulls and empty heads of fellow travelers, but news reports have alleged that Soros runs a shadow empire that has actually destroyed nations in the past. Steyer spent twenty million Yankee greenbacks to influence a leftist outcome of the 2014 mid-term elections. That was more than any other person contributed making Steyer the number one political contributor in America. But he’s a committed leftist; and so, considered a hero instead of a demonic threat. The Koch brothers whom the Left loves to demonize only rank 59th on the list of top contributors to politics, but, as I said, the Kochs are demonized because they are viewed as donating to traditional values leaning candidates and policies, which, of course, is considered an impediment to the Left’s grand scheme. Wondering about the fifty-eight people ahead of the Koch brothers who have skin in the political game is either too complex a thought or an inconvenient truth for leftist sympathizers.
            The apocryphal curse, “May you live in interesting times,” is apropos.
            Fourth, the use of newspeak as a leftist tactic recognizes the power of propaganda in swaying the misinformed, herd mentality masses. I refer you to the penultimate propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
            On the brighter side of things, we have now reached critical mass concerning the total number of leftists in our nation. I have absolutely no misgivings that should a zombie apocalypse actually occur, those brain eating rascals will starve slap to death before they pose any real threat to us.

          • Rob Anderson

            Thanks for sharing the ideas & belief of your hero Joseph Goebles. You will end up like him, as a black mark on man kind.

          • DWarren

            You misspelled “Goebbels.”

  • Adam Lynch

    “…All the rest of the Anti-American crooks”? Really? Hey, ya know what else was “anti-American,” Leonard? Those crooks who went to war with America so they could own humans, that’s who. The ones who fought under that idiot, vicious flag.

    • nojack

      The Union Flag has MUCH More Blood on it than the Northern Army of Virginia Battle Flag. How many Native American’s blood has been spilled because of the Union Flag? How many innocent lives have been taken because of the Union Flag? How much continued
      repression is the Union Flag going to represent? Adam, your history is all wrong. Lincoln was Not going to let the Union Slaves seek freedom. Abe Lincoln was a Tyrant! The Civil War was NOT about slavery. Most southerners did not even own slaves nor did they own plantations. The War Between the States began because the South demanded States’ rights and were not getting them. It was Northern Aggression over money and rights. Adam, you’re a racist loser who doesn’t have a clue about history. You have been taught to be a racist and a bigot. The Union’s aggression against the states still continues. Living under the Murderous, Vicious, Criminal, Union Flag, that is supposed to represent Freedom and America, couldn’t be further from the truth. It is the Flag that represents Murder, Racism, and the Police-State that we live in. Do yourself a favor, and get yourself some education. You really look like the Idiot that you are! Maybe you’re upset because your Surname is “Lynch” and you just hanged yourself.

      • Adam Lynch

        Oh, I gots me some education, Jakie. My history book tells me that America is a country like most any other in that it is an evolving experiment. The U.S has enjoyed a women’s suffrage movement, a Native American rights movement and a Civil Rights movement. Meanwhile, the Confederate states, created specifically so rich white people can own other humans, and legally rape them and maim and kill them, are a dead, rotten thing that needs to be in the ground before they stink up everything around them.

      • Adam Lynch

        Man, i love it when somebody tries to tell me that the “Civil War wasn’t about slavery,” cuz then I can pitch the Mississippi Articles of Secession at them, which states that “our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery.” Please stop trying to re-write history, Jackie. I got no patience for it.

        • Jesusismyquarterback

          The War Between the States began because the South demanded States’ rights and were not getting them…..
          You know…That slave owning right. Yeah, that one.

          • Adam Lynch

            Shouldn’t bother with him, Jesus. Lojack’s too busy given’ Col. Reb a big ‘ol slurpy b***-job to even realize he’s defending pure evil. Just let him keep on givin’ love to his lost cause.

        • J.W.Lee

          Mississippi was the first state to pay confederate “colored” veterans a pension…there were some 1,700 documented recipients.

          There was much more to the “Civil War” than common “talking point” neo anti-confederate hate incitement could ever address.

          The neo Marxists like to stir up “wedge” emotion evoking issues…their intention is to divide and conquer. They will succeed if “We The People” aren’t united in identifying our enemies…both Foreign and Domestic!

          Semper Fi

          • Adam Lynch

            Here’s a wedge issue for you, JW, and I bet even you recognize it: the Civil War was a rich man’s war. Slaves equaled money–so people with money had slaves. When a poor fool went off to fight in the Civil War he fought for a rich man’s right to keep wealth. That’s all it was: a bunch of wealthy people duping poor whites into fighting for their evil cause. Poor whites gained nothing from it. In fact, since a poor white man couldn’t compete with a slave’s free labor it kept his southern white man’s wages down to a pittance–just so ‘ol Col. Reb could afford a few more rolls of gold leaf toilet paper.
            Even today, poor Southern whites are fighting for a rich man. You’re fighting for politicians who approve trade deals to send our manufacturing jobs to Vietnam, and approve Wall Street bailouts and crap minimum wages, tax cuts for Paris Hilton and other rich people, but you’re not getting anything YOU want, like school prayer and the overturning of Roe v Wade. And you won’t ever get what you want, because wealthy political donors know that all they have to do is show you some black kids with their pants down around their ass or some Mexican babies, or promise to keep blacks away from the polls with new voting requirements and you’ll vote for ’em.
            You can’t help it because southern men have been bred for centuries to bow to wealthy masters.
            I just wish you could join me and see who your real enemy is. It ain’t that black kid with no Daddy. It’s that fat bastard making 300 times as much as you by sending your job to China.
            C’mon, Man: get it. Please?

          • DWarren

            Every war is a rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight. If you’re just now figuring that out, you’re a few millennium behind the curve. Like everyone in an actual way, poor Southerners are fighting for survival.

          • TWBDB

            Poor Southerners have always struggled for survival, it is a bond we should all rally around no matter our creed, religion, or skin color. Most all Southerners suffered during and after the Civil War. Many to this day.

            Something I found quite interesting is that at the start of the war, the slave population of Mississippi was 55% of the total population. I know some of those slaves served the Confederacy. What I don’t know is how many served voluntarily. But none of this really matters much to the flag controversy today.

            I believe had the anger of whites not turned toward blacks after the war: we wouldn’t be having this controversy at all. That aspect of our history is really weird to me. It is as if the slave owners were angry at the slaves for losing the war.

          • DWarren

            TWBDB, the rift between Southern blacks and whites after the War was an intentional ploy by the occupying Federal forces to pit the population against each other while the Federals and Carpetbaggers stole everything they had not been able to steal during the War. And, yes, the South is still crawling up out of that hole. Would it surprise you to know that Antebellum Mississippi had more published authors per capita that any state in the Union? Of course, after the War a subtle censorship was imposed in order to ensure that only Union friendly propaganda made it into print.
            If you are genuinely interested in learning about Southern African-Americans who fought in the War and why they fought, may I recommend, FORGOTTEN CONFEDERATES: AN ANTHOLOGY ABOUT BLACK SOUTHERNERS. You will see old photographs of African-American Confederates and read the words of African-American Rebel soldiers themselves. Anyone who is willing to disregard original sources or disparage eyewitnesses who actually experienced the events being written about isn’t interested in knowing the truth and allowing the truth to set him or her free.
            Have you ever looked up the percentage of Southerners who actually owned slaves at the outbreak of the War in a legitimate and objective source?
            How about looking up the number of free African-Americans who owned slaves at the outbreak of the War?
            Have you done any reading about the African chieftains who raided other tribes to take slaves. One sharp dealing Northern slave ship captain was attempting to negotiate with an African chieftain for slaves for his ship. The chief became exasperated with the greedy northerner and said, “I have slaves to sell. I want guns, shot, and powder. I have all the slaves I need. Those you don’t buy will be killed.”
            Human slavery is an ugly scar that mars the psyche of every race, creed, color and national origin. Anyone who tells you different is not attempting to inform you–he or she is attempting to beguile you.
            During the zenith of the Roman Empire two-thirds of the population were slaves of every race, color, creed, gender, and national origin. There’s plenty of slavery guilt for every human on earth. I’m sorry that the name of the person who made the statement eludes me at the moment, but the quote is quite apropos, “You will never meet a man who does not have among his ancestors a king and a slave.”
            All who demand that the South continue to be the whipping boy for slavery are guilty of an ungodly injustice–in my considered opinion. I urge you to avoid the considerable peer pressure that would force you to kowtow to such a deranged worldview.

          • Adam Lynch

            Not really sure where you’re going with that answer. Maybe it wasn’t meant to be a debate-style response.
            In any case, TWBDB asked a question that sent a shiver down my spine when he implied that you are some kind of slaver sympathist. Please, if you will, set me straight before I go making rash assumptions, would you?

          • DWarren

            I have never owned another human being. I do not presently own another human being. Nor do I every want to own another human being. But rest assured, Adam, if anyone out there is in the market to acquire a slave, I’d recommend that they pass over you and TWBDB.

          • Adam Lynch

            My heart revels, then, in the fact that you don’t sympathize with the revolting inhuman scum that kept rape and slavery a legal institution well up into the 1800s and put a blight on this wonderful, evolving nation of ours. TWBDB, ya hear that? Leave the man alone.

          • DWarren

            My revulsion isn’t limited to the 1800s, Adam. Unfortunately, chattel slavery is still practiced in the modern world, and closer to home than you think. Don’t worry about TWBDB. He and I have a love hate relationship. He loves to hate me. I’m obviously the personification of many of his illogical prejudices.

          • DWarren

            You know what, Adam? I believe you. You really don’t get it, do you?

          • J.W.Lee

            It’s a non-starter…peoples beliefs were at the root of it…wealth isn’t power: knowledge and beliefs are. Besides I don’t buy wedges or wedgies for that matter.

        • Keith Thomason

          Lincoln declared war on the south. he even thought blacks were inferior to whites and wanted to ship them out of the country. Also the North had slaves as well. So why fight the south over slavery when the north also had slaves. you dont know your history

  • NY2015

    What a great thing to make the national news about – yet again people will laugh at Mississippi. Thanks Tate Reeves and friends for keeping the flag so that the rest of the world will know how behind we are. Your heritage is really helping us move forward.

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  • Jack Makokov

    Domestic terrorist and thug needs to be locked up for life. This creep was at the ASB flag vote at Ole Miss a few weeks back as well, Looking through his comments; so he threatened the Daily Journal over a story they ran in which they asked business owners their opinions on flying the state flag (“Business Owners Divided on State Flag,” September 16, 2015)? Apparently he was also upset because Walmart discontinued treasonous rag sales.

    Users DWarren and Cletus Snow: you guys gonna pass the hat around to help your boy’s legal mess? He was very supportive of you guys’ posts under that story on 9/16.

    • DWarren

      Relax, Jack, and give the guilt by association a break–unless you are willing to be measured by the same measurement. A terrorist bomber is no friend of mine nor of any flag. Maybe this poor soul will turn out like the terrorist, radical, leftist Bill Ayers and become a respected university professor and advisor to U.S. Democrat presidents. You do champion Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn of the violent, terrorist, bombing Weather Underground as heroes, don’t you? Right wing terrorists go to prison. Left wing terrorists become university professors and advisors to Democrat presidents.

      • Jack Makokov

        The patented, irrelevant-to-the-discussion tangent/gish gallop from Dale Warren. Nice work. The names you reeled off have NOTHING TO DO with trash person and coward Marshall Leonard detonating an explosive at Walmart and threatening media outlets and a department store.

        You didn’t answer the question: do you and Cletus have a gofundme up to help your buddy’s soon-to-be very expensive legal bills?

        • DWarren

          Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are celebrated leftist terrorists who engaged in multiple terrorist bombings. Thanks for displaying yet again the patented liberal amnesia regarding leftist terrorists.

          • Jack Makokov

            Did Ayers and Dohrn detonate an explosive at a Tupelo Walmart this past Monday morning? Thanks for displaying your patented lack of reading comprehension.

          • DWarren

            Since you appear to be one of those politically correct folks who operates on a third grade level, I’ll make it simple for you. My money is my private property, frankly, it’s none of your business what I do with it–period. Leftists really don’t understand the concept of private property, do they? Leftists also have a concept of blind justice that applies the letter of the law to anyone they consider a “right winger”–even to the point of guilt by association without so much as a modicum of evidence. Also, Leftists turn a blind eye to left of center criminals; choosing to champion rather than condemn them. You forfeit your right to righteous indignation when you champion the conviction and confinement of who you perceive to be a right of center criminal terrorist, but then turn right around and champion those you perceive to be left of center criminal terrorists.

          • Rob Anderson

            Warren remember, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, & and the founding fathers were” terrorists to the Tories, but patriots to us. Then realize that Lee, J.Davis and rebels were terrorists, While Lincoln , Grants and the union were defending the Union and the Constitution to protect our freedom. YOU lost get over it or get out. Try ISIL.

          • nojack

            Rob, you’re a deluded moronic Fool! You’re still supporting the Union Terrorists, Obamanation and his regime. I hope that you’re enjoying all of the freedom that you’re speaking of. When the jack-booted thugs stomp on your little pea-brain, you’ll be begging the ones you support to help you when they are your enemy. Rob, you’re a fine example of the “Brainwashed Sheep”
            that has helped Americans lose their Freedom. You have a room temperature Intelligent Quotient at best. You might become a decent basket weaver if you work at it though. All hope may not be lost for you, but most likely it is. A Born Loser is a difficult issue to overcome!

          • Rob Anderson

            Did the truth get your regressive undies in a bunch. When you renounce your fearful dogmatic RW indoctrination and learn rational critical thought skills, Then you can support your opinion w/ facts, data, & proof, however you will realize you’ve been wrong again. Have a nice day Koch oar.

          • DWarren

            If you are my intellectual superior, why are you so concerned about my views? Your leftwing bias is showing. When I see any rational critical thought skills displayed by a leftist, I’ll appreciate them. So far, knee jerk ad hominem attacks have been the only inadequate offering from the Left.

          • DWarren

            The Lincoln myth wears thin upon close observation. Lincoln did more to destroy the U. S. constitution than to defend it. You would not enjoy living under Mr. Lincoln’s suspension of habeus corpus. Lincoln shut down over 300 Northern newspapers because they were not sufficiently pro-Union with respect to the War. Even Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation was a fraud of the first order. He proclaimed the slaves free in Confederate territory where he had no authority, and he left the slaves in Union territory in slavery. He even prefaces the document with the caveat, “as a necessary exigency of war,” which gives the lie to the idea that he was motivated by any sincere desire to end slavery. Did you know that the Union Army barred persons of Jewish ethnicity from serving? Did you know that Judah P. Benjamin, a Jewish person, held high office in the CSA? Did you know that Stand Waite, a Native American, was a general in the CSA? Can you name a single Jewish participant on the side of the North? Can you name a single Native American who held a commission in the Union Army? The War of Northern Aggression was a sectional struggle for supremacy and a fight to enshrine a strong centralized Federal Government. The Northern Yankees wanted to retain the control they had sought from the beginning. The myth that the War was an anti-slavery campaign was a calculated ploy intentionally designed to dissuade Britain from entering the War on the side of the South. Unfortunately for the South, Britain discovered they could acquire the cotton they needed from Egypt; and so, never came to the aid of the South.

          • Adolph DeFlore

            So the only argument you have is “look over there”?

            It makes for an amusing slight of hand magic trick but only works for those who think magic is real.

          • DWarren

            It is always amusing that left of center folks want to put the spotlight on any criminal they consider right of center; but turn a blind eye to every criminal they consider left of center. Just be consistent. Either condemn all terrorist bombers or don’t condemn any. I condemn all terrorist bombers and believe that no terrorist bomber should be given a pass and allowed to be a university professor and advisor to Democrat presidents. If you are unable or unwilling to do the same, that’s on you–not me.

          • TWBDB

            I condemn all terrorist bombers, those like Ted Kaczynski and Bill Ayers on the left and those like Timothy McVeigh and Marshall Leonard on the right.

            Now, what do you think about Marshall Leonard, the KKK, white supremacists, and those who have stolen the innocence of our Southern Heritage and blighted it with bigotry and racism?

          • DWarren

            I think he is sitting in jail awaiting his day in court. Think about it, TWBDB, on what grounds other than bigotry do you automatically lump every person who favors recognizing the legitimacy of the state wide referendum adopting the 1894 state flag in with a terrorist bomber?

          • TWBDB

            I don’t jump to the conclusion, as you say, that every person who favors retaining the 1894 ( Rebel Flag ) is racist, a bigot, or sympathizes with this terrorist bomber. I base my conclusions on what ‘individuals’ say or do. I’m not talking about ‘every person’ – again I’m having a conversation with you.

            As for me, and I’ll speak for myself, the fact is I know people, people in my own family, who are neither racists or bigots and favor retaining the MS Flag as it is; who display or wear the rebel flag, as I have, as a symbol of our Southern rebellious nature. I have black friends who wear this symbol themselves to ‘own’ it and disarm it as a symbol of derogation as others have used the “n” word or the word queer. In my life, the people I most respect are those who bravely break the mold of establishment thinking ( sound familiar ) and express themselves as individuals.

            So, again Mr Warren. I’m asking you, if you truly wish to redefine this rebel flag, this perceived symbol of racism and bigotry, this process is really in your, and other’s who support the symbol, hands. You can take it back from the white supremacists, the KKK, the nut jobs who bomb the local Walmart because of a corporate decision to distance themselves from this controversy – – or you can align yourself with them. Your choice.

          • DWarren

            You still don’t get it, TWBDB. Your perception is not reality. If it makes you happy to mislabel me a fool, racist, bigot, (add any term you consider sufficiently derogatory), knock yourself out. Here’s my positions:
            You have the right to any opinion you wish to hold.
            I have an equal right to any opinion I wish to hold.
            You have the inalienable right to free speech.
            I have an equal inalienable right to free speech.
            We can agree with one another.
            We can disagree with one another.
            The people of Mississippi have the right to choose their state flag.
            The people of Mississippi have chosen their state flag in a certified state wide referendum.
            You and everyone else can like it or lump it–it’s all a case of mind over matter to Mississippians like me. Mississippians don’t pay politically correct thought police any mind because to us they don’t matter.
            P.S.
            I caution you to be careful taking pride in being politically correct. You might find yourself called upon to defend some inane absurdity like the latest politically correct thought police fiats from the University of Kansas: (1) the phrase “man up” is politically incorrect because it promotes maleness over [and I’m speculating here] the more evolved concept of personness, but even “personness” has “son” in it, and that’s a slight against daughterness]; 2. the phrase “you’re crazy” is politically incorrect because it belittles a person’s saneness and makes light of those suffering mental problems. If you have ever uttered either of these forbidden phrases or even allowed either to pass through your mind unspoken, you may already be politically incorrect and must immediately surrender your left of center superiority ID card. If you believe you are free to nullify the KSU politically correct fiats; then, you have to admit that you reserve the right to hold onto your personal biases.
            P.S.S.
            How does one get appointed to the politically correct thought police and who decides the jurisdiction of the same?

          • TWBDB

            Dale, I don’t give a damn about political correctness. Anybody, black, white, or polka dot can act and say stupid things: can be racist: can be a bigot. That isn’t politically correct, it’s just a fact. I can’t help that you say things which put you in the same category as Rev. Wright, Al Sharpton, etc.

          • DWarren

            TWBDB, your comprehension of Wright, Sharpton, and Warren leaves much to be desired.

          • Cletus Snow

            I’ll go one further, and say his comprehension of anything at all needs to be reevaluated. He’s missed the point entirely about this flag issue and how a democratic republic works.
            What I find truly amazing is how these people found wording in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that suggests a woman has the right to kill her unborn child simply because ‘the time isn’t right’ but cannot find the words “keep and bear arms” or “shall not be infringed”…
            Now we have this flag issue again, and though times change and people right along with them, there was overwhelming support for the current flag some 14 years ago. I guess we’ll vote on it again, and whatever the majority says I’m on board with it because that’s how our form of government works.
            If you support the Confederate Battle flag you’re a racist, but if you are repulsed by the rainbow flag you’re a homophobe. While I’m on that, I thought a ‘phobia’ was a fear of something. I’m not scared of gays, I just find their lifestyle repulsive and completely unnatural. If God had wanted man to lay with another man he would have created us asexual, or possibly hermaphrodites.
            Reverend Wright is anti America, I’m pro America as I believe you to be also.
            I believe you’ve made Tim angry, but unlike Dr. Banner, I don’t believe you have anything to fear from doing so. He may have lived over a half century but I’ve found he’s immature and truly doesn’t have a solid grasp on what a democratic republic is.

          • TWBDB

            Bill, I am so sorry for you, Dale, the blacks and their supporters who oppose the rebel flag, and the State of MS that today more than 150 years after this actually quite pretty flag entered into the history books, none of you seem capable of moving beyond the past. No, you have not angered me. I pity you.

            You, Dale, Rev Wright, etc. are equally ‘angered’ at the federal government and you’ve all called for the damnation of it, each in your own way. You and Dale have spent countless hours dredging up what you call ‘evidence’ to hold against the government and your fellow citizens who participate in the civil liberties ‘our’ natural laws in concert with our government provides.

            You’ve called for the defunding of state universities because you don’t like the fact students and the administrators have lowered a flag. You’ve compared their struggle to Native Americans: and yes, Bill, Native Americans do call for the lowering of the US Flag in particular instances and if it is to prevent them somehow from focusing on bettering themselves, I am in support of their lowering so Native Americans can move beyond it.

          • Cletus Snow

            First of all, I don’t have any reason for you to “pity” me. I’m doing ok, better than some and worse than others. It all evens out.
            Second, the white/black ratio in Mississippi is still nearly 2:1, almost 60% white vs 37% black… Maybe common core teaches that’s “virtually 50/50” but it’s not even close.
            Third… You cannot cite one example where I’ve called for “unrest”. Not one. If by insisting that the voter’s decision be honored, or insisting that someone merely charged with a crime be afforded their constitutionally guaranteed right to due process, or perhaps insisting that our ever increasingly encroaching and suffocating federal government get a handle on the ONLY fiscal problem they have, that being one of spending, not revenue, if that’s your idea of “calling for unrest”, well I guess I’m guilty. I am against big government and ours continues to grow. That’s not what our nation was founded on. You come across as a reasonably smart man, I’m assuming you can read well enough to see that in the multitude of writings from the founding fathers of this nation. That’s exactly what they were escaping.
            Lastly I have never advocated we keep this flag. Not once. I have said repeatedly that should the vote swing in favor of changing it, I’m cool with that. I’m not even going to cast a vote either way because I honestly don’t care, although like you I do think it’s a very beautiful flag. And I’ve seen 46 of the lower 48 state’s banners waving in the breeze live and in color.
            In one breath you champion the rights of equality, in the next breath you contradict yourself by suggesting the government ignore the 65% who voted in favor of retaining the current flag, thus reducing them to something far less than equal.
            I’ve been happy to debate things with you. In doing so I’ve offered up statistics most often provided by the very government you seem to believe is supreme over all of us. I’ve offered up irrefutable evidence provided by the mainstream media which we all know is heavily biased towards the liberal agenda in response to your constant push towards the liberal agenda. You’ve offered no such proof in your arguments. How then can you expect to sway even one person to your ideals if you offer nothing to support your way of thinking? This Rodney King attitude, you remember, “can’t we all just get along” doesn’t work. For thousands of years there has been a division of the people the world over, and there always will be.
            Our founders sought to create a system that was unheard of up until that time. One that gives each one of us an equal voice. It’s not perfect but it’s the best that the world has to offer so far.
            Yes, I believe you’re angry. You’re not a pioneer when it comes to people I’ve made angry. I speak my mind. My step mother, a legal Cuban immigrant with a PhD in child psychology as well as several Masters to boot, once implored that I speak my mind. Nobody will know what I think unless I do, that’s what she said. I haven’t talked to her in several years but I bet that old girl would say the same thing today. That’s a woman who knows a thing or two about hard times, having been run out of her own country as a child because her father opposed the revolution.
            As Mr. Warren said, it would be a dull and insipid world if we all thought alike. It would indeed. An old friend from the Big Windy (Chicago) once said “if we all thought alike we’d all be married to 6 ft blondes”. He’s not far off base.
            It seems to me you’re ready to cast our constitution aside and allow the central government direct us in every aspect of our lives from this point forward. That sure seems to be the direction you’re leaning. It is I who has pity for you. You’ve given up on the American Dream and the concept that we’re all created equal with an equal voice within our government, also referred to as self government. Funny, though, I remember distinctly you taking a much harder stand when it was something that meant a great deal to you, yet somehow you find it within yourself to deride others who stand up for their constitutional rights. Strange indeed.

          • TWBDB

            The political agenda, civil rights, and ideals which mean the most to me are those having to do with equality, fairness, and living in peaceful coexistence with fellow citizens in a thriving, forward thinking community, state, and nation. I don’t want us to agree on every measure. In fact, I’ve repeated again and again where I believe varied views are essential. I invite you to show me where I’ve ever promoted anything different.

            I don’t pity your financial status, I pity the fact you, and the others I mentioned, are stuck in a mind set of derogation, division, and unrest. The post I’m responding to is a perfect example: I don’t need to go back any further.

          • Cletus Snow

            If you thought I was referring to my financial status, you couldn’t be more wrong. I’m ok there. What I was referring to is my beliefs surrounding our democratic republic and what that form of government means to me. I’m very much aware that you feel because I believe in due process by the judicial system, believe that most issues should only be resolved through a popular vote and that our government as a whole has a bigger problem with reckless spending than they ever did with revenue, that I’m promoting “division” and “unrest”. If those ideals I’ve mentioned are prerequisites for the labels you bestow upon me then I guess I am.
            I feel that rather than follow the path of least resistance like water and electricity it is up to all of us to stand firmly for things that we believe in, even if those ideals are unpopular or viewed as derisive by some. That’s ok with me.
            Equality. Fairness. Those two principles are bedrocks upon which our republic was founded. I wholeheartedly agree that they are among the most important rights we as Americans have been given. Your vote should carry the exact same weight as mine. That’s as equal and fair as it can possibly be. Peaceful coexistence is an animal of another stripe entirely, and that is where I feel you’ve contradicted yourself. When 330 million people call this country home it’s not only impossible, I believe it’s unacceptable. We must have disagreements, otherwise we’re all just moving along like the water and electricity. Following the path of least resistance. That flies directly in the face of the democratic republic. In order to achieve “peaceful coexistence” we would all have to agree on everything, and if we did that then why even have a democratic process in the first place.
            Now, peacefully, once again, in response to your many false allegations of my being a racist or bigot, I say… Let’s vote. Whatever the outcome may be, I will support it. I’m ok either way. I believe you on the other hand would be perfectly ok with disregarding the opinion of the majority in the previous vote on this flag and allow some representative from our elected government remove this flag. I believe you favor the minority. The minority must be heard. I agree to that, the minority must be heard. But until they become the majority then we cannot allow our democratic process to be upended.
            A while back I presented you with a hypothetical question, one that has more truth to it than hypothesis. Our American flag and the American Indian. I think the Native Americans rank lower in our population as a whole, but in some areas they have a rather large percentage of the state population. How would you feel if they decided they wanted the American flag removed from sight in the entire state of Oklahoma? Their very existence was nearly eradicated by people waving that banner. I only asked this because it comes as close as possible to the issue we have here in Mississippi today but with the shoe on the other foot. I’m interested in hearing your answer. As I said, there are really only two ways to answer it and any attempt to dance around it is feeble at best. You’ve repeatedly ducked it. Why? Not comfortable with your answer?

          • TWBDB

            Thanks Bill. I could not find a consistent explanation for your insistence on divisive, derogative language until now. This also explains why each
            time we near consensus the rhetoric heats up. I can’t read your mind, and I want to make certain I understand your meaning. To that end, allow me to ask, am I to understand you believe peaceful coexistence requires agreement, perhaps approval, of diverse views and this is why you find peaceful coexistence unacceptable? I will respectfully hold that thought
            until you confirm or correct my understanding of your meaning.

            Now, on the other topics:

            Some Native American groups do deride classical western civilization and even oppose the American Flag being flown over native lands and institutions for the very reasons you mention: namely, the decimation of
            their culture and murder of their ancestors. Some Native American businesses fly the Tribal Flag with precedence to the US flag, as some churches fly the Christian flag in precedence to the US flag. I honestly
            have no problem with any of these positions and I find it interesting you ask as you clearly support the Confederate flag, the MS flag in precedence to the US flag. I’ll be happy to discuss my reasoning with you if you’d like. I’m quite comfortable with it as I’d be quite comfortable to discover, as i have with the rebel flag, that my reasoning has matured.

            Constitutional democracy, even in a representative government such as ours, is built upon majority rule coupled with minority rights. Tyranny by majority or minority barred. Our own founding documents provide rights of expression and grievance starting with the Bill of Rights and we’ve struggled as a nation and a state to bring those rights to a true level of fairness and equality from the beginning.

          • Cletus Snow

            “Peaceful coexistence” cannot exist in a community over 300 million strong unless our right to express our opinion is withheld. As long as there is a difference of opinion, and there always will be no matter what the topic is, if we retain the right to freely express that opinion we will not have that “peaceful coexistence”. The most anyone can ask for is for others to acknowledge their right to their respective opinions. It’s impossible for each of us to “approve” of every individual’s opinion. With disagreement comes division. How do you propose we attain that “peaceful coexistence” while retaining the right to not only disagree freely but to express that alternate opinion without fear of retribution? I’d like to hear your suggestions on how we can create a utopian paradise where each person’s will is granted or at the very least where everyone “approves” of differing opinions. You’ve said we need opposing viewpoints, that’s a start, but it’s also where you contradict yourself. What do we do from that point forward? Answer that before I go any further on this “peaceful coexistence”.
            Now, I asked a specifically worded question… And you danced like Carlton all around it. Perhaps I should have elaborated further. The Native American population in NM is a bit over 9% total population and about 7.5% in OK. These are the two highest percentages of Native Americans within the U.S. Let’s say they proposed taking the American flag down EVERYWHERE in the state, changing it without the approval of all the citizens.No American flag to be flown anywhere within that state’s borders. How would you feel, particularly if you were born and lived your whole life in that state? Would you strongly oppose, or would you support their endeavor? Second, would you support or oppose the right for all the citizens within those borders to vote on that issue? If you can’t or won’t answer the question then we have nothing further to discuss because it’s clear you really don’t recognize our collective right to express our differences of opinions unless it’s an opinion you share.
            Churches don’t count, they are as private an institution as your home or mine. I’m talking about government entities and institutions.
            I do not “support the Confederate flag” or “the MS flag in precedence to the US flag”. I’ve stated clearly from the beginning I do find the state flag to be a rather attractive design BUT I DO NOT CARE whether its redesigned or not. Something wrong with your ability to understand plain English? My only argument from the very beginning is that this issue CAN ONLY BE RESOLVED THROUGH A POPULAR VOTE! Nobody’s rights are being trampled here, this isn’t a civil rights issue. To arbitrarily remove the current flag, a banner that was approved overwhelmingly by the citizens in a previous vote, would in my opinion be a tyrannical gesture. I guess I need to spell things out for you letter for letter.
            Our system of government is as fair and equal as it could ever possibly be as it stands today. We elect representatives to various local, county, state and federal legislative, executive and judicial branches of government. The reason we elect representatives to the legislative branch is to ensure each of us has an equal voice in the respective level of government they’re a party to. I’m sure you learned all this in Civics 101, so I won’t delve any further into that. You claim somehow our system isn’t fair and equal, yet offer no insight into how you’ve reached this conclusion. You rarely do, though. You rarely offer any substantive evidence to back your oftentimes absurd claims. How is our system unfair or inequal, and how would you change it to better fit the needs of our society? I’d love to hear more. No system is perfect, keep that in mind. There is absolutely no such thing as a perfect government.

            On a more somber note, keep France in your prayers. They fought for us during many campaigns, the very first one included. They gave to us one of our most prized monuments, The Statue of Liberty. They’ve stood behind, beside or in front of us countless times when we needed them, 9/11 included. They will pick up the pieces and move ahead just as we did 14 years ago. I feel confident that we as a nation will stand wherever they need us to stand.

          • TWBDB

            Bill, from our earliest exchanges about the MS flag, I have stated MS citizens should vote on the issue. I believe it crucial we share our views, weigh them, walk a mile in each other’s shoes as it were, and come to a decision best for All people of MS. Oklahoma did that years ago when the Daughters of the American Revolution found the first Oklahoma flag offensive. Today Oklahoma boasts a cluster of symbols on their state flag representing peace between peoples of Native and European origin. As a native born land owner in Mississippi, I believe MS should follow their lead. Thank you for bringing it up.

            Now, let’s see if we can dispense with your ‘specific’ question. I notice you say, “proposed taking down the American flag EVERYWHERE in the state, changing it without the approval of all the citizens. No American flag to be flown anywhere within the state’s borders.” I’ll put my answer in caps so you won’t miss it, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT SUCH A MEASURE.

            I suspect this is a preview of the impending fear mongering prior to the 2016 ballot measure on this issue. I suspect individual liberties will be ignored; individual liberties saying I can fly any damn flag I want on my own property, on my own business, in my own church, in my own institution, etc. I can choose to promote peaceful coexistence as impossible, even more unacceptable.

            To the topic of peaceful coexistence, division, derogation, I’m really glad you clarified and confirmed your position. I thought that’s what you were saying and this explains a heck of a lot of your and Dale’s statements. I wanted to be clear before I ask you, “Where in the hell did you get such a hair-brained, radically ridiculous perception of this most basic concept of civil discourse and civil society? Where in the hell did ou get the idea peaceful coexistence requires universal agreement and approval of divergent viewpoints?” It most definitely wasn’t from me.

            ‘Peaceful coexistence’ does NOT require agreement or approval of divergent opinions; neither does it require suppression of our freedoms of speech. Civil society is built upon the open discourse of divergent viewpoints, grievances, and solutions for the purpose of creating an environment of peaceful coexistence. These concepts go back to those Greek philosophers your buddy Dale is so fond of quoting. These are the earliest lessons we learned in Western Civilization 101 and the framework upon which all democratic constitutions are formed. Western civilization built upon the concept the state serves individuals, not the other way round, and individuals are responsible to participate in civil discourse to determine the best path of the state. That’s what we are attempting to do here but unfortunately a significant sector of the 330 million Americans have come to the conclusion, as you have, civil discourse / peaceful coexistence is impossible, unacceptable, and not even a goal worthy of working toward.

          • Cletus Snow

            I was not referring to the OK flag, I was referring to the US flag flying on government grounds only. Would you support or oppose the Native Americans quest to have the American flag removed from government grounds, schools etc…. That’s what the minority population here in Mississippi want the state to do, remove the state flag from government grounds. I guess I should have specified public property, I forget sometimes I have to spell things out for you.
            The peaceful coexistence you seek isn’t possible in this country at least, simply because of people like you. If I oppose gay marriage I’m labeled a ‘bigot’ by you. You have done this, I’ve not resorted to name calling but I could. If I promote prayer in schools I’m labeled a religious radical. If the evidence shows an 18 yo black thug beat a white cop and tried to gain control of his service weapon and is then shot and killed in self defense, and I support the white cop, I’m labeled a racist. I remember those comments from that particular situation. How is childish behavior such as this considered “peaceful”? I personally don’t care what you or anyone else calls me, I’m my own person and I know exactly who I am. I don’t need nor do I expect universal acceptance. I’ll stand up for what I feel is right. If you don’t like it, keep in mind there are plenty of things about you I’m not crazy about.
            In our ‘free’ society if one group disagrees with another group there will be things said that are misconstrued, there will be actions taken, sometimes innocently and inadvertent, which will be misunderstood and the reactions from that point forward will sometimes be far less than peaceful.
            I’m just about done trying to reason with you. I believe you are part of the problem in this country. You support the sanctuary city idea, with the exception that many of these people add to the homeless problem within those cities. Next you’ll propose government housing for these people here illegally. Your argument is that Americans won’t work in those fields. You’re right, but only because Americans won’t work for the pittance that these farmers pay. Some still pay in scrip and have ‘company stores’.
            You support the idea that nobody should have to prove their eligibility to vote, i.e. citizenship. Just walk right in and declare “I’m here to vote”!
            You support the infringement of the 2nd amendment. Infringement means that somehow the right has been restricted. You support that. Enough said on that one.
            You believe that 65% of the population should just set aside their own wishes and the 35% who may be offended by something. My thoughts on this are the same as yours when it comes to gay marriage (and open homosexuality in general)… Don’t like the flag? Don’t buy one!
            You support the liberal tax and spend agenda, social programs we can’t afford, with a healthy dose of borrowing included. I don’t see how you think we can continue confiscating earnings from the American public and funding programs for people who choose not to try and better their own situation. Not to mention the ‘free’ benefits for illegal aliens.
            Yep, you’re part of the problem.

          • TWBDB

            Are you reading impaired? My second paragraph specifically answered your question and I gave you my answer in all caps !!

            My own family does not support gay marriage; they are not bigots. I didn’t always support gay marriage myself; I’m gay – and I’m certainly not a bigot.

            I support prayer in school. That does not make me a religious radical.

            Michael Brown was a thug and put himself in a life-threatening situation. I am not a racist.

            Yes, I’m fully aware people misconstrue what I say: you do it to me all the time. You are doing to me right now.

          • TWBDB

            Just as I expected.

          • Cletus Snow

            Forgive me for my lapse in keeping up with this debate. Between work, the holidays, a week at home with so much to get done, kids and the granddaughter I’ve been quite busy.
            Humor me once more, Tim, for clarity’s sake. If the Native Americans pushed for a statewide referendum calling for the removal and replacement of the US Flag, you’re saying you would oppose such a measure?

          • TWBDB

            Purpose Mr Warren. Terrorism is wrong no matter what, period. It makes no difference who does it, or why they do it. Yet, yes, there are those who defend and celebrate the terrorism committed by others.

            Each of us here are individuals, not categories. We may ‘come out’ as liberal, conservative, etc. to lend voice, to speak for, but, counter to your myopic assertions, these categories do not define us as individuals. Our words, today, in this time, here, speak for us as individuals.

            These DJ threads document our words and I encourage readers to follow them if they truly want to know how we as individuals present ourselves; to learn what we really think about the issues.

            I would remind you, Mr Warren, you’ve had multiple opportunities to share your opinion of white supremacists to speak directly to them in fact, your opinion of the KKK, and now your opinion of an act of terrorism committed in the name of the defense of the Rebel Flag. In reading, you will say, they don’t represent your cause and then go on the attack against liberals.

            We know your opinion of liberals, you’ve made that abundantly clear. Yet, ironically, in response you won’t find a ‘masterpiece of derogation’ against conservatives, against Southerners, against white people, against straight people, against Christians, against the American way as you claim liberals believe. Isn’t it time for you to speak for yourself instead of pretending to speak for others. YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME.

            So now, do you defend this act of terrorism at the Walmart, do you defend the KKK, do you defend the white supremacists who came here a couple weeks ago? Do you have the courage to stand up against bigotry?

          • DWarren

            It’s quite obvious to anyone of average intelligence that I don’t speak for you, TWBDB. You and I are on opposite sides of an issue about 99% of the time. It would be nice, if some of you liberal folks were more consistent in your own positions and more tolerant of differences of opinion.

          • TWBDB

            I repeat, you’ve had multiple opportunities to share your opinion of white supremacists to speak directly to them in fact, your opinion of the KKK, and now your opinion of an act of terrorism committed in the name of the defense of the Rebel Flag.

            You’ve shared your opinion of liberals, like me, and you’ve certainly gone to great lengths to ‘speak for liberals’, like me by saying what we think, as if you know. Since I do know what I think, I can tell you that you’re grossly off base in your assessments.

            But the article isn’t about liberals. I repeat, you’ve had multiple opportunities to share your opinion of white supremacists to speak directly to them in fact, your opinion of the KKK, and now your opinion of an act of terrorism committed in the name of the defense of the Rebel Flag.

            I am being respectful of your individuality and your right to speak for yourself: please proceed.

          • DWarren

            The only bigotry and prejudice I’ve seen in the exchange is your knee jerk condemnation of anyone who takes a position you don’t like. You constantly slander anyone who dares violate what you consider the sacrosanct politically correct point of view as a racist, bigot, hater, etc. ad nauseam. The vast majority of people who go on bigot hunts need look no further than the mirror to find one.

          • TWBDB

            I’ve simply asked you to take a position on white supremacy, the KKK, and now this man who bombed the Walmart he himself claims in defense of the Rebel Flag. You’ve taken no position; other than that of derogation of me and liberals in general; I could copy/paste pages of this in fact. This is your ‘knee jerk’ position.

            I have no problem looking at my faults Mr Warren; bigotry isn’t one of them.

            So, I’ll ask you again and I’ll make it a bit easier for you. White supremacists and the KKK are self-proclaimed racists and bigots. Do you agree with their views? Do you support them? If not, I’m simply trying to understand you; why it is that you refuse to speak against these self-proclaimed racist and bigoted views? I’m asking you to speak for yourself.

          • Cletus Snow

            Don’t forget fool… He referred to you as a “fool” some days back on another lecture about how things are supposed to be.

          • DWarren

            Thank you, Mr. Snow. You are a Southern gentleman and a Southern scholar. I’ve been called so many derogatory names, I’m having trouble keeping up with them all. I wear all of the pejoratives with great pride. If little ol’ me is worthy of the hue and cry of leftists, I must be doing something right.

          • Cletus Snow

            I think Mr. Warren hit the nail firmly, no, with great force, squarely on the head with his assessments. It is you who has the foggy mind.

          • Rob Anderson

            Well there you go again spinning & refusing to accept the bigotry & and intolerance to anyone who calls you on your bogus crap. You may be more upset today because the twice elected President Obama stopped The XL pipeline your Koch masters wanted to harm our nation & the planet, for their profit. You AGAIN lost on another issue. Have a Nice Day! HAHAHA!

          • DWarren

            Emotionalism and ad hominem rants are the refuges of small minds. You find slavery repulsive, but slander the Kochs as my masters. Are you for or against slavery? Which is it?

      • TWBDB

        Purpose.

      • Rob Anderson

        Warren I know it’s been a rough 3 months of massive failures for you regressives. have lost: the Culture War, LBGT War, War on Drugs , War on women, War on ACA, War to force your christo-Taliban theocracy, War on the middle class. Time to realize A Diverse, Changing, America Love it or Leave it.

        • Adolph DeFlore

          That’s exactly why we have all these knuckle draggers blowing their tops all over the place. They see the world moving on without them while they want to stay firmly in 1940.

          They did the same thing in the sixties when the civil rights act was passed and when the military desegregated and so on and so on. Arson, bombings and murder is a time honored tradition and they’re just trying to honor their “heritage”.

        • DWarren

          Rob, you can always count on me to endeavor to persevere. I’d rather be right and lose than be wrong on the issues and win. Obviously, a character flaw that you do not possess.

          • Rob Anderson

            Warren you’re being wrong and a puppet of the RW is a flaw on your part & denies Truth. You lost you supported slavery w/ all it’s ills. History has proven that. Don’t use the States Rights talking point. That was refuted by the south in the War of Southern aggression. When Dred Scott & Fugitive Act was upheld, that nullified the Union States Rights to recognize a slave as a free person & not property in Union States. That was corrected by the 13th,14th,& 15th Amendments. Which your ilk lost. Deal w/ it or self deport.

          • DWarren

            Do you think Robert E. Lee was correct to free his slaves years before the War of Northern Aggression, or do you think Gen. and Mrs. U.S. Grant were correct to own slaves before, during, and after the War of Northern Aggression?

          • TWBDB

            Both were wrong to own slaves, as you are wrong to defend bigotry today on the basis of a war fought more than 150 years ago.

          • DWarren

            Ah, but the Unionists have purged any reference to African slavery in the United States and its practice by any northerner in order to lay any and all blame for the same solely at the feet of the beleaguered South. How in good conscience can you condemn Southern symbols for slavery and not condemn U.S. symbols for the same?

            Consider this quote from before the War of Northern Aggression by Patrick R. Cleburne, late CSA general from Arkansas, “I am with the South in life or in death, in victory or defeat. I never owned a negro and care nothing for them, but these people have been my friends and have stood up to me on all occasions. In addition to this, I believe the North is about to wage a brutal and unholy war on a people who have done them no wrong, in violation of the Constitution and the fundamental principles of the government…We propose no invasion of the North, no attack on them, and only ask to be let alone.”

            Consider further this quote from during the War of Northern Aggression by Patrick R. Cleburne, late CSA general from Arkansas, “Every man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation before it is too late… It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision… It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.”

            In the words of that great American philosopher, Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies, “The War was when the North invaded America.”

          • Rob Anderson

            After the War of Southern Aggression the 13 th. Amend. ended Slavery. How could Grant own slaves after the War & the 13th. Amend. He couldn’t ,you show how foolish , ignorant & irrational you are for all to see. Have a nice day.

          • DWarren

            Well, that’s the easiest question I’ve ever been asked, Rob. I have my nine year old grandson here, I’m going to let him answer it for you. Go ahead, sonny, the computer is all yours.
            You see, the War ended in April 1865 for all intents and purposes with the surrender of Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia at Appomattox Court House. The Thirteenth Amendment was passed by the U.S. Senate on April 8, 1864. The same was passed by the U.S. House of Representatives on Jan. 31, 1865. Then, on Dec. 18, 1865, it was declared that the sufficient number of states had ratified the Thirteenth Amendment (but this is debated, since some of the states voting for ratification were not yet officially “reconstructed” enough to be allowed back into the Union in which case they had no legal standing to participate in the process, which the North swore all along they had never really left because secession was impossible. There is also the question of the legality of the passage in the U.S. House since only northern states actually voted for passage in April 1864. Should the “unreconstructed” states that were considered back in the Union for this amendment have been allowed to vote for ratification of an amendment they had not voted for in the U.S House in April 1864? Confusing, isn’t it?). But eventually, on December 18, 1865, Sec. of State, William H. Seward, (you know, the guy who bought Alaska from the Russians) certified its adoption. The lapse of time between April 1865 and Dec. 18, 1865, while the constitutional procedure to amend the U.S. Constitution (passage by the House of Reps., passage by the Senate, ratification by three fourths of the states), allowed more than sufficient time for Gen. and Mrs. U.S. Grant to own African slaves before, during, and after the War of Northern Aggression.
            Thanks, sonny. That was quite proficient.
            It’s me again, Rob. Isn’t it a shame that they don’t teach U.S. History in the government schools any more?

          • Rob Anderson

            Nice lie that was not from your mentally challenged offspring. You are the one who needs to learn revisionist and cherry picked bagger lies are RW propaganda. Nice try Koch Klown.

          • DWarren

            You’re tilting at windmills, if you think insults are the antidote for truth. And if it makes you feel better about yourself to pretend that you didn’t have your lunch eaten by a nine year old, you go right ahead with your delusion. Please excuse those of us who choose to live in the real world of historical fact.

          • Cletus Snow

            Good one, Mr. Warren. Your nine year old grandson has probably forgotten more about history than Rob ever absorbed through Wikipedia and osmosis from sleeping on his textbooks in school.

          • DWarren

            You mean Rob went to school?!? The state of the government schools is worse than I imagined.

          • Rob Anderson

            D. you were either dogmatically indoctrinated in home schools or an irrational church school. You have the talking points of Xtrian clone . Nice to see your great fear and hate atheists science & reason. I’ll put my educational & rational skill credentials up against yours anytime. Let’s go there. Bet you won’t because you’ll fail again.

          • DWarren

            Rob, if you are educated and rational, you have done a masterful job of concealing both up to this point.

          • Rob Anderson

            I’m tired of your trolling ignorance. We both know you are a loser & on the wrong side of history.

          • DWarren

            I’ll thank you not to include me in your personal delusions.

          • Rob Anderson

            D. Your are a self fulfilling myth or a delusion. Only if you accept rational critical thought skills do you need to respond. Neo fascist Koch puppets like you will end up like fascist a complete failure. Learn about the Social Contract of Founding Fathers and not Mein Kampf of your hero.

          • DWarren

            Rob, there is nothing a conservative like me and a Leftist socialist like you will ever agree on–other than that we disagree with each other. I view the Left’s agenda as a nonsensical anomaly and a great threat to the nation. No amount of childish name calling and unsubstantiated accusations on your part will alter or impede my determined opposition to liberalism and its variegated attendant ills. Your incessant substandard attempts to insult me are trite and unbecoming. I might point out to you for your much needed enlightenment that Nazi Germany was a leftist socialist system not a free market laissez faire free enterprise system—a historical fact that you have either completely missed or are incapable, if not unwilling, of comprehending. Hitler’s Germany was the practical application of the principles of social Darwinism. You go right ahead on your merry fellow traveler way following the various incarnations of liberalism’s inane pied piper–like Tom Steyer and George Soros—and engaging in the futile absurdity of trying to solve problems by institutionalizing the very problems you claim to wish to eradicate in society. The saddest part of our exchanges is the realization that you are completely unaware that you are a mere puppet on a string trying desperately to defend the indefensible absurdities of a perennially failed philosophical, economic, and civic system that never has been successful anywhere it has ever been implemented—and one that never will work in the real world.

          • Rob Anderson

            You fail as an american when you are blind to the Social Contract of the founding father as stated in the Preamble of the Constitution. If you refuse to acknowledge the Social Contract that’s proves you’re ignorant anti American, so go suck on your Tbag. Have a nice day GFY Go find Yourself.

          • DWarren

            Rob,
            “American” is a proper noun that should always be capitalized. Correct Standard English is one of the lynchpins that holds civilization together.
            I congratulate you on at least going to the trouble of learning that there is a Preamble to the U.S. Constitution. I highly recommend that you go on with your learning to discover and to practice the meaning of the same.
            Following the Revolutionary War (which ended in 1783) the newly free and sovereign thirteen American states were bound together under the Articles of Confederation. The loose association of the sovereign states left them exposed to a military threat from England and Spain and opened the door for the possibility of national bankruptcy. To remedy the situation American patriots called the Constitutional Convention of 1787. The delegates elected Alexander Hamilton, William Johnson, Rufus King, James Madison, and Gouveneur Morris to serve as the “Committee of Stile and Arrangement” to revise the Articles of Confederation. After two days of work, the committee submitted the final draft of the Preamble and Constitution to the full Convention. Thirty-nine delegates to the Constitutional Convention signed the U.S. Constitution on Sept. 17, 1787.
            A “preamble” is an introductory statement in an official document stating the reasons and intent of what follows. Specifically, the Preamble of the U.S. Constitution sets forth the general principles of American government–principles that leftist fellow travelers like you regularly trample under foot. In evidence of which, I offer the following:
            “We the people of the United States.” This opening of the Preamble enshrines the honored American principle that “government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.” No amount of linguistic gymnastics can twist this simple statement into the understanding that you attach to it that only liberal leftists should control the direction of the nation and dictate the laws of the land. The fact that you are quick to disenfranchise those Americans you view with contempt and hold in perennial disdain that you in your childish manner castigate as “T-baggers” is prima facie evidence that you neither embrace the concept nor practice of the principle of government of, by, and for the people.
            “In order to form a more perfect Union” identifies the intent of revising the Articles of Confederation as improving the former compact’s shortcomings. Rather than nullifying the unique concept of a limited federal union consisting of free and independent sovereign states (the meaning you leftists incorrectly attach to the statement), the Constitutional Convention of 1787 established in perpetuity a limited federal government charged with defending the nation and placing the nation on solid, sensible financial ground. Again, no matter how much you twist the words of this statement, they never have and never will justify the imposition of a socialist system on the United States of America.
            “Establish justice” means that the U.S. Constitution is the objective standard of all judicial decisions. Every judicial decision supported in the U.S. Constitution is legal and just. Every judicial decision not supported by the U.S. Constitution is illegal and unjust. Since you leftists fancy yourselves as Constitutional experts, let me ask you to identify exactly where in the text of the U.S. Constitution does the document state that a woman has the right to murder the baby in her womb? Where does the U.S. Constitution state that homosexual marriage is legal and just? Where does the U.S. Constitution state that a U.S. president has the right to by pass the will of the people and the acts of the U.S. Congress to legitimize illegal immigration to increase his political party’s voting constituency? You leftists aren’t interested in justice or the Constitution. You are driven by a mad and consuming desire for political power and for the destruction of the United States of America.
            “Insure domestic Tranquility” refers to the fact that the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizens the inalienable right to be at peace and to be secure in their property to live their lives as they see fit. In short, the Federal Government of the U.S. is charged with the responsibility of protecting the citizens’ inalienable rights—not to revoke, deny, restrict, or dismantle them. Are you seriously going to argue that the inalienable right of those poor souls trapped in major U.S. cities run by liberal Democrat socialists like yourself are enjoying the benefits of a federal government that is insuring their domestic tranquility? So far, your attempts to justify this premise has made a lot of noise, but absolutely no sense. A jack-ass braying in a tin barn makes a noise—but doesn’t make any sense.
            “Provide for the common defense” authorizes the federal government to maintain and to deploy the military for the purpose of protecting and of perpetuating the U.S. as a nation. Every Democrat socialist president the U.S. has ever had has weakened the military, misused, and abused the military rather than providing for the common defense. You leftists aren’t interested in defending the U.S. Your ultimate–if unstated—aim is to destroy the U.S.
            “Promote the general Welfare” means instituting policies that are beneficial to every citizen. Liberal leftists by definition are the purveyors of class warfare and attempt to pit U.S. citizen against U.S. citizen by propagandizing for the “redistribution of income” and harping on “income inequality.” Boiled down to its simplest expression, leftists like you are nothing more than thieves who talk about “compassion” and “fairness” while you rob people.
            “And secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Prosperity” means maintaining freedom for the current generation and bequeathing a state of freedom to succeeding generations. Leftists aren’t interested in securing of bequeathing liberty. Leftists are devoted to enslaving people. The U.S. needs to build a wall to keep people out. The U.S.S. R. had to build a wall to keep people in. There’s a big difference there that leftists like you just don’t get.
            “Do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America” recognizes the uniqueness and sovereignty of this great nation. American exceptionalism and American sovereignty are repugnant concepts to leftists like you. The disdain for U.S. exceptionalism and U.S. sovereignty displayed by the current Democrat socialist president has left the world a much more dangerous place and the nation far weaker than when the Democrat socialists achieved political power seven short years ago.
            Beyond the Preamble there is an entire Constitution that leftists like you despise, oppose, twist, and systematically attempt to dismantle, while conservatives like me stand firmly against you and your nonsensical, inane misguided attempts.
            And beyond the Preamble and the Constitution, there is a world and national history that should inform one’s views. But, like all liberal socialist leftists, you champion historical illiteracy, intellectual dishonesty, moral bankruptcy, and societal destruction because you are so busy being a fellow traveler minion that you don’t have the time to learn anything.

          • Rob Anderson

            Check your grammar American is not a proper Noun just a noun. As for the Social Contract in the Preamble not being part of the Constitution You are wrong just parroting the Heritage, Birch, Bagger straw men & lies.Typical propaganda from your ilk mixing up the Declaration of Independence w/ the Constitution. Learn the Difference. Your statement ‘”government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.” is in the D.oI. You right wing neo-fascists. Ignore the 1st 13 words of the 2nd amendment and cheery pick parts you like & ignore what you don’t like. On the 2nd Amend. don’t tell me current SCOTUS was correct on the 2nd.Amend. This court is as wrong as the SCOTUS that found Dred Scott & the Fugitive slave act were legal. The ruling denied the Union States their right to recognize Slaves as freemen & not property. The 13th, 14th, & 15th amendments restricted states rights when they tried to deny equal rights to citizens. You’re ilk needs to accept you lost the War of Southern Aggression, then Jim Crow Voting Rights Act, Public Accommodations Act. You will continue to lose all your attempts at culture war, LBGT War, War on drugs, War to install a Xtrian theocracy , which is against the Separation of Church & State, War on Women, War on Diversity War on reason… Evolve or your ilk will be extinct before 2036. May you have a Thanksgiving that a family member thats takes you & your dogmatic ignorance to the Woodshed. Hillary2016 ,SCOTUS Justice Obama 2017.

          • DWarren

            Rob,
            For your much needed enlightenment, a proper noun is the nominative for a particular person, group of people, place, or thing. My grammar is immaculate. Your grammar is atrocious. When referring to citizens of the U.S., the word “American” is as much a proper name as “Canadian,” “German,” “Syrian,” and ad infinitum. If you lack a working knowledge of Standard Correct English, how can you be an authority on the meaning of the Constitution (or anything else)?

            Since your knowledge of Standard Correct English is woefully inadequate and appalling, it is not surprising that you didn’t comprehend the definition of the Preamble as the introductory statement in the Constitution that sets forth the reasons and the intent of all that follows.

            If you would take the time to do a simple Google (note the capitalization here) search for “The Founding Documents of the United States,” you would discover the fact that they consist of: (1) The Declaration of Independence; (2) The U.S. Constitution; (3) The Bill of Rights (the first Ten Amendments to the U.S. Constitution); (4) The Federalist Papers; and (5) The Anti-Federalists Papers.

            And I’m certain that you are unaware that James Madison is termed “the Father of the U.S. Constitution” because of his adamant insistence that the revision of the Articles of Confederation into the U.S. Constitution retain a national central government that would remain limited in scope. As a matter of fact, Madison and the Baptists of Virginia are responsible for the Bill of Rights, the first Ten Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. The Great and Sovereign State of Virginia sent a clear message that unless the new U.S. Constitution included in writing clearly defined limitations on the power of the federal government, the state would not even consider ratifying the document.

            The only redeeming quality of your posts is that with each word you type you belittle and place in the poorest light possible the fanatical and radical absurdities of leftist Democrat socialist positions.
            P.S.
            Your post to which I am responding contained the following flagrant grammatical and syntactical errors:
            “Check your grammar American is not a proper Noun just a noun” is a run-on sentence.
            “As for the Social Contract in the Preamble not being part of the Constitution(Set off introductory words, phrases, and clauses with a comma) You(This should be lower case) are wrong just parroting the Heritage, Birch, Bagger straw men & lies.”
            “Typical propaganda from your ilk mixing up the Declaration of Independence w/ the Constitution” is an incomplete sentence.
            “You right wing neo-fascists” is an incomplete sentence.
            “This court is as wrong as the SCOTUS that found Dred Scott & the Fugitive slave(This should be capitalized) act(This should be capitalized) were legal.”
            “You’re (“You’re” is the contraction for “you are” and can’t be used where the second person possessive pronoun “your” is required) ilk needs to accept you lost the War of Southern Aggression, then Jim Crow Voting Rights Act, Public Accommodations Act.
            “May you have a Thanksgiving that a family member thats takes you & your dogmatic ignorance to the Woodshed (This should be lower case).”
            And may you have a happy Thanksgiving gathering where a family member provides you much needed instruction in grammar, syntax, and American history. I wish you knew 1/1,0000th of what you think you know. But, as I stated above, I’m happy that you are the public voice of leftist liberalism in all its intellectually dishonest, morally bankrupt, socially destructive, economically deluded, and historically illiterate vain glory.

          • Rob Anderson

            IS the Preamble in the Constitution? Yes It’s the beginning. Show me any place our Constitution is missing the Preamble. You may not use bagger propaganda. Stop trying to get off topic by wanting to discuss grammar and not deal with facts & proof; With your dogmatic parroting and proving you have no rational or critical thought skills or abilities. This is why you are losing your culture Wars. You’re projecting your own, I’m happy that you are the public voice of Neo-fascist conservatism in all its intellectually dishonest, morally bankrupt, socially destructive, economically deluded, and historically illiterate vain glory. Remember every time you curse Socialism you are cursing Jesus & liberalism. Think about your Hate of Jesus & his Beliefs. If you look at history Conservatism is always swept into the dust bin of history by the forces liberalism & progressivism. Enjoy oblivion.

          • DWarren

            Who’s the parrot now, Rob? You are even incapable of original thought.

          • Rob Anderson

            That’s all you got, wet cow pies. You can’t respond to issues because your dogmatic indoctrination prevents you from rational thought. You are my inferior get used to it. You are irrelevant & ignorant that will never change and a born loser, Enjoy oblivion Dumb Arse.

          • DWarren

            Perhaps you could enlighten me and the other members of the forum concerning exactly where in the inspired, inerrant, infallible Gospel accounts of the New Testament Scriptures Jesus the Christ stated His advocacy of Marxist-Leninist Socialism as a political philosophy and public policy. I’m betting this is going to be good.

          • Rob Anderson

            Moron I never said Jesus was a Marxist- Leninist Socials thats a lie Learn what a Democratic Socialist is. You are too fearful of Marxism and not smart enough to realize your paradigm is based on fascism. Look at The nations in northern Europe they are very successful and are Democratic Socialism. Nice try one of your Xtrian terrorists is attacking PP in Col. Sp. Jesus won’t like that. You are too stupid to understand what Democratic Social is and builds a strong middle class. Stop parroting Koch & Fox lies. Your ilk will never win accept it.

          • DWarren

            As with all of your unintelligent rants, you can’t substantiate your assertion that Jesus was a liberal socialist. Where did you hear that load of malarkey? I’ll bet you can’t even provide me and the other forum members with a coherent definition of Democratic Socialist either. Care to give it a try? We await your “learned” ruminations.

          • Rob Anderson

            D. time for you to grow up & mature like this conservative young man just did. Bet you won’t stay on topic and explain why he realized the failures of conservatism. Washington (CNN)The 13-year-old Internet phenom who gained national attention criticizing President Barack Obama and briefly was a part of the Ted Cruz campaign is renouncing conservatism, saying he’s looking to be a voice unbound by party ideology.

            CJ Pearson told CNN on Friday that concerns about the Republican Party’s viewpoints on racial and gender disparity as well as youth issues convinced him he could no longer be a mouthpiece for conservatism.

            “I was tired of being a champion of a party that turned a blind eye to racial discrimination. Tired of being a champion of any cause that denies equal rights to every American. Tired of being a champion of a party that doesn’t care about the issues important to young people,” Pearson wrote in an email.

            The 13-year-old, African-American YouTube star from Georgia said in an interview that he began considering the change after a conversation with another teen friend, who asked why he doesn’t speak out on racial discrimination — to which he replied he was concerned his followers wouldn’t be pleased.

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            “Over the past few days, I thought about essentially how I don’t want people to follow me because I’m that anti-Obama kid, or who called out Hillary Clinton or who took Bernie Sanders to task,” Pearson said. “I don’t want to be the conservative wonder kid that people follow because I make them feel good and like young people are part of their movement. I want to be followed because I’m the voice of a generation that doesn’t have a voice at the table.”

            He said the video of Laquan McDonald being shot 16 times by a police officer in Chicago helped open his eyes to the systemic problems of racial discrimination in America and the need to look at the issues objectively.

          • DWarren

            Rob, your assumption that what happened was that the 13 year old child “matured, became better informed, and converted to liberalism/socialism/progressivism” is specious at best, if not outright delusional. A more likely scenario is that the child succumbed to peer pressure–plain and simple. When you are a middle school age child who has not reached physical, mental, social, or spiritual maturity, you are very susceptible to the influence of membership groups and cliques. Once you become an old bull like me who’s been to see the elephant and bears the scars of living life in the real world, you could not care less about membership groups or cliques; so, the application of various types of coaxing to force you to conform (be they examples of positive reinforcement or negative reinforcement) become and remain altogether meaningless,fruitless, and futile to the nth degree. With maturity, experience, and character, one learns that any group who demands you change your personal values, beliefs, and opinions to win the group’s acceptance isn’t a group worthy of one’s participatory membership. Any individual who requires you to alter your personal values, beliefs, and opinions to conform to his or her ideals isn’t a person worth having as a friend, companion, confidant.
            On the other hand, I am glad that you now have a fellow liberal/socialist/progressive on whose mental level and maturity level you may comfortably interact.

          • Rob Anderson

            D. you know as well as I do you are spouting the crap of a loser . Face reality and admit you ignorance & dogmatic fascist indoctrination is a failure. Also. accept regressviesm will be replaced by Liberal Progressivism. RIF Rest in Fear,

          • DWarren

            Rob,
            An attempt to put what I know into your head would be like trying to stuff a grand piano into a broom closet. Once again you present for public deliberation the telltale symptoms of an uninformed, liberal, socialist, progressive toady sycophant whose only recourse is to wallow furiously in childish ad hominem and unfounded slanders. But please do keep it up. The more you talk, the fewer liberals/socialists/ progressives there are likely to be. This leads me to believe that you are in reality a dyed-in-the-wool diehard conservative who has merely assumed the online persona of a liberal/socialist/progressive true believer in order to display in the public domain liberal philosophy and public policies in the poorest possible light. If such is the case, you are admirably achieving your subversive objective.

            In the event that such is not the case, read on. Direct address should be set off with a comma. “You” is the second person nominative case pronoun and can’t be used where the second person possessive case pronoun “your” is required in Correct Standard English. Introductory words, phrases, and clauses at the beginning of a sentence should be set off with a comma–not a period. “Also.” is an incomplete sentence. Capitalize the first word in a sentence. “Regressviesm” (sic) is misspelled in your post. A comma is a punctuation mark that indicates a slight pause in a line of thought and cannot serve as appropriate end of sentence punctuation.

            Let this be a warning to any and all out there. When you refuse to learn anything in school because you think you know it all already, you end up like Rob–fanatically supporting a philosophy and public policies you don’t understand, with a language you can’t utilize correctly, for an end goal you are incapable of foreseeing. You become the saddest of caricatures.

          • Rob Anderson

            ROTFLMAO at your stupidity On Also there is a comma. You are to ignorant to know you are wrong again & staying off topic.Typical for Tbag suckers.

          • DWarren

            Rob, get up off the floor and stop laughing. The public display of ignorance by a person who claims to be an adult is no laughing matter. Rather than wasting time rolling on the floor laughing about how woefully uninformed you are, invest some time learning the truth about liberalism/socialism/progressivism; and, for goodness sakes, brush up on Standard Correct English. “To ignorant” (sic) should be “too ignorant.” “To” is a preposition meaning: (1) expressing motion in a specific direction; (2) identifying a person or thing affected; (3) identifying a specific relationship between persons or things; or (4) indicating that two things are attached. “To” can also serve as an infinitive marker. On the other hand, the adverb “too” means: (1) to a higher degree than is desirable, permissible, or possible; (2) excessively; (3) also; or (4) in addition.

          • Rob Anderson

            Notice you are too worried about grammar & spelling ,rather than rational & critical thought skills. Your home schooling & fascist up bring are showing. Until you are willing to share your credential of education & stop parroting irrational RW talking points & lies. You need to stay on topic which haven’t demonstrated. Bet you are too irrational to pass any of my classes. GFU Go find yourself.

          • DWarren

            Rob, rationality and critical thinking are only possible when one possesses a working knowledge of the language in which one reasons and thinks critically. I have a working knowledge of seven languages. You have a working knowledge of none. I have a standing rule never to enroll in a class conducted by an unlearned and immature person who is incapable of learning because he thinks he knows it all already.

          • Rob Anderson

            Language is simple memorization for homeschoolers, like you. My MA in Constitutional Law & International Law trumps your brainwashed dogma. With 35 years educating 6th- post grad students, you don’t have a chance of passing because your absence of thinking skills. You were told to stay on topic but , autism is hampering that. Get some mental health help. It’s part of the ACA of President Obama. Remember Romney Care was modeled from Your Heritage Foundation. It worked well in Mass. So our twice elected President Obama used the templet. Your Ilk’s bastard child grew up to be ACA. The first step to single payer, your worst nightmare. Deal w/ it. Until you return to the original topic, no need to respond. Just wallow in your ignorant crap.

          • DWarren

            The fact that you might actually be an educator in this or any alternate dimension is frightening beyond my ability to express in words and certainly explains how so many folks arrive at college nowadays unable to draft a coherent sentence, with an inadequate grasp of American History, and totally oblivious to reality. Rather than being prepared to learn, they have been equipped by charlatans only to bark liberal/socialist/progressive pablum like Pavlovian pups and operate on the misconception that their unfounded and misguided opinions serve as an acceptable substitute for objective truth. Do tell me where you have in the past or are currently plying your liberal/socialist/progressive pedagogical trade. You see, I’d really like to know what so-called institution of higher learning allows a person with a Master of Arts to conduct terminal degree doctoral seminars.

          • Rob Anderson

            I’ll share w/ you those location when you share your expertise & resume. Don’t lie which is one of the traits of you conservative baggers.

          • DWarren

            Rob, it is just as I suspected. You probably hold a high school diploma that you don’t deserve–a lasting testimony to social promotion and the dumbing down of the American educational system by liberal/socialist/progressives. You “self-identify” as a learned person, but delusion is a poor and unacceptable substitute for reality.

          • Rob Anderson

            LMAOAYIgnorance. No Answer to the Simple Request tells it all You don’t Have the Credentials, Just the crap of a Tbag Trolling sucker.

          • DWarren

            Rob, the content of my posts stands as prima facie evidence of my intelligence; just as the content of your posts testifies, sadly, to your lack thereof.

          • Rob Anderson

            Scared to answer.I’ll share w/ you those location when you share your expertise & resume. Don’t lie which is one of the traits of you conservative …

          • TWBDB

            “Any individual who requires you to alter your personal values, beliefs, and opinions to conform to his or her ideals isn’t a person worth having as a friend, companion, confidant.”

            I think that’s what many of us have been saying for a very, very long time and indeed the opposite of what I constantly hear from the Far Right.

          • DWarren

            Friendship is possible between individuals who hold opposing personal values, beliefs, and opinions, when neither party requires the other to jettison his or her positions as a condition for socializing and is willing to take no offense when his or her philosophical and social policy positions are challenged. Both parties are free to retain personal opinions and to challenge the other’s positions without forfeiting camaraderie in such an arrangement. I think it’s the challenging of the Left’s opinions that you are incapable of entertaining–much less accepting, TWBDB.
            The sine qua non requirement of the Left is that traditional persons forsake their personal values, beliefs, and opinions and embrace unequivocally the current and ever changing personal values, beliefs, and opinions of the Left; or, at least step aside and allow the far Left’s values, beliefs, and opinions to prevail socially and to dominate public policy. That is one of the absurdities of liberalism/progressivism. A philosophy and public policies that are unmoored from objective reality are doomed to drift aimlessly on the stormy and shifting tides of the sea of relativity like some phantom ghost ship devoid of a course and a destination. Have you noticed that the Left’s definition of what constitutes racism, bigotry, and discrimination is constantly growing like the Blob in the classic 1950s science fiction movie? Liberals/progressives are incapable of extrapolating the movement’s trajectory and foreseeing the final end result of the movement’s present random chance course. By the way, TWBDB, the Left’s new microaggression fiat/ban/anathema is that “politically correct” is a taboo microaggression that is only used by far right bigots. You’ve used the phrase “politically correct” in our exchanges. So, let me ask you, how does it feel to be a right wing bigot? I mean, that is the Left’s standard, isn’t it? Any language identified by any segment, group, or person that makes anyone, anywhere uncomfortable for any reason is racist, bigoted, and discriminatory discourse. According to the Left’s self-appointed thought police, a condition of membership in the Left’s clique is avoiding all such offensive language. Let’s face it. You weren’t moving to the Left fast enough, TWBDB, and the expanding label of racist, bigot, discriminator has rolled over you like a steamroller. You folks on the Far Left are so busy yelling “bigot” at everyone who disagrees with you and demanding that everyone pledge undying loyalty to the Left’s constantly changing and undefinable party line (or at least muzzling any challenge to the same), I’m not surprised that your aural perception is impaired.

          • TWBDB

            Dale, you’ve become quite exhausting. I have repeatedly sought a cogent reasoned discussion but you continue to return to your polemic rants.

            I am interested in your opinions on specific issues and I’m quite open and willing to consider them regardless of their political nature. I am NOT interested in your strawman projections of my positions and opinions. You’re so far off base it’s laughable. This tactic is beneath you Dale, and I do not understand why you insist on using it.

          • DWarren

            TWBDB, may I respectfully suggest that the exhaustion and frustration you are experiencing stem more from your commitment to a variation of a questionable philosophical approach than from my posts. You appear to be attempting to apply some form of the popular, but misguided, Hegelian Dialectic (AKA Hegelian Triad) in your approach to issues. While the specific philosophical interpretive approach was developed by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, a German philosopher, during the waning years of the Enlightenment, the roots of the system of thought hark back to Ancient Greece and even India. In ancient Greece, oratory was considered a combination of “logos” (rationality); “pathos” (emotionality); and “ethos” (ethical appeal) as a persuasive medium. The Sophist philosophy emphasized arête (excellence in every endeavor) as the sine qua non of persuasion. Socrates disagreed with the Sophist position and identified truth arrived at via reason and logic as the ultimate aspiration; hence, the name dialectic. Hegel’s innovation posited the statement of a thesis, the statement of the exact opposite of the thesis (antithesis), and finally, the ultimate reconciliation of the obvious contradiction between the two on a higher plane. I stand more in the Socratic tradition; since I believe that the elusive “common ground” you constantly seek via Hegelian synthesis is capable of resulting only in a half truth at best. The harmonization of truth and untruth, light and darkness, right and wrong, left and right with a higher synthesis alterative that exceeds both truth and untruth, etc., is an unattainable will o’ the wisp (ignis fatuus) resulting only in exhaustion and frustration. Oil and water may be comingled momentarily during a vigorous shaking as in debate, but ultimately return to their separate identities, when the coercive shaking stops.

          • TWBDB

            You can suggest anything you like Dale, but my frustration most certainly stems from your posts. I like to discuss topics / issues not how liberal or conservative people are – – that’s meaningless to me because as you even point out the bar moves from person to person.

            But my frustration primarily stems from the shifting tides of your positions and the fact you cannot seem to stop pretending to know and stating what you believe my positions are . I’m quite capable of expressing my own positions and my own opinions thank you.

            The philosophy history lessons are nice but they wildly stray from the topic at hand. For heaven’s sake you’re talking about Sophist philosophy underneath an article about some fool bombing the local Walmart.

            Dale, I live and work in the public sphere everyday; quite successfully interacting with people from all walks of life, incredibly divergent religious and political viewpoints and we have no problem addressing a topic without going around the world to get there.

            I believe it was the first week we started exchanging viewpoints that self identified white supremacists were posting against a black journalist in this newspaper. You say you aren’t bigoted, you aren’t racist, so you should not have had any difficulty coming to her defense. You refused.
            Ever since then you’ve gone around the world to somehow prove that I’m a bigot, I’m a racist, I’m a whatever……and then finally a few days back you come up with this anti-Southern white male professor in a college class who called you out. A bigot against Southern white males he may have been but it makes me wonder if this professor was actually trying to get you to see how you treat others Dale. If he was, he apparently failed in that mission too. But I think it might be something you should consider in light of the exchanges you and I have had. Just a little heads up from a friend.

          • TWBDB

            Classic Glen Beck. Unfortunately, the ‘Hitler and the Nazis were liberals’ nonsense falls apart when you consider they hated Jews, gays, Catholics, and ‘wait for it’ – – – liberals !

          • DWarren

            TWBDB,
            You really must increase your knowledge of history. Hitler’s most elite SS force was composed of homosexuals. You can read about the history in Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams’ THE PINK SWASTIKA (1995) also available in an online edition. The reference quotes extensively from Samuel Ira’s THE PINK TRIANGLE (1945) an original source from an eyewitness. If Hitler hated any homosexuals, he only hated those who refused to knuckle under to his leftist socialism.

          • TWBDB

            Good heavens Dale, is this really the type of resource you use for your history lessons ? Do you honestly think I’m not aware of these propaganda books, Bryan Fisher’s quoting of them, and his ultimate firing from AFR as a result?

            Studying the realities of history, we know Germany suffered a crushing defeat in WWI. Germany had been ordered to pay reparations to France and Belgium after having invaded them; the government of Germany was trying to stimulate the economy through government infrastructure rebuilding programs but there were a lot of people out of work, especially in rural Germany. Meanwhile, the Jewsish population, primarily urban, educated, and professional, fared much better. Protestant sentiment toward the Jews had never been favorable anyway, and a growing number of Germans resented them. This same growing number of people resented the failure of their centralized government, resented the money they were spending in urban centers, where the Jews lived, and resented the influence urban Jews had on government decisions. Urban centers, like Berlin, were seen as rampant dens of inequity with their cabarets, gay bars, and sinful publications being put out by organizations like the Institute for the Science of Sexuality.

            The ‘TRUTH’ is DWarren, Adolf Hitler and his buddies wanting to take control of Germany with the Nazi party saw an opportunity to cease upon this unrest. They preyed upon an underemployed, uninformed, angry citizenry and spread propaganda to segment the German people into ultra-patriotic, Christian Aryans (NAZI’s) vs everyone else.

            We must learn from our history Dale or we are destined to repeat it.

          • DWarren

            Have you read either book, TWBDB? Or should we add psychic to your list of personal attributes? Propaganda works in both directions. Drawing a conclusion that is based on the propaganda against a person or book is ill-advised. Read books yourself with a critical eye concerning their contents. Such is the privilege of a free society.

          • TWBDB

            I read through as much as I could stand of the 1995 book. Ernst Rohm, a man known to be homosexual, and his close ties with Hitler is used as the ‘hook’ of the book. Dale there’s always some truth hook to propaganda; you know this. And you bet you behind, I most certainly turn a critical eye to anything political. I can certainly tell you do: and I can tell we turn our critical eye in a much different way.

            It doesn’t take long to read about Ernst Rohm, Dale, determine how Hitler used this friendship for his benefit, and then learn the truth about the Nazi Party and their policy toward homosexuals.

            Ernst Rohm was a German officer in the Bavarian army in WWI and became the leader of the SA; an incredibly brutal man. Hitler befriended him and utilized Rohm’s ties to the SA to become leader of the SA himself; the SA protecting Hitler and brutalizing his political enemies. Hitler had Rohm executed in 1934 as part of his ‘purge’ of the Nazi party. Thus began the official Nazi Party campaign against homosexuals, but one of the minorities the Nazi’s insisted must be ‘purged’ from society. It’s a matter of history Dale. The Pink Triangle was the badge worn by known homosexuals in the concentration camps. This isn’t propaganda, it is truth.

            Of course Dale, many people chose to believe anyone befriending a homosexual for whatever reason is indeed homosexual themselves; and to the author’s and Fisher’s credit they recognized this ‘hook’ to sell their own propaganda.

            Dale, it pains me to remind you how once again you attempt to demonize those who disagree with you, your political ‘enemies’ as it were. It doesn’t pain me to remind you of your own reference to the mantra, “those who refuse to learn the lessons of history are bound to repeat it”.

            Yes Ernst Rohm was a homosexual, an incredibly brutal man, and a central character in the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party. Yes, it’s true some Northern states who fought on the side of the Union were transitioning from ‘slave states’ themselves. And yes, black people have higher per capita crime rates than whites. And yes, very intelligent, learned individuals use these ‘hooks’ to dupe good people into believing their propaganda.

          • DWarren

            Slogging through books one knows one will not enjoy is the price we pay to broaden our horizons and become informed citizens. I have slogged all the way through Al Gore’s, AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH; H.R. Clinton’s HARD CHOICES, IT TAKES A VILLAGE, LIVING HISTORY; and Barack Obama’s, DREAMS OF MY FATHER. I do recommend that you check such volumes out of a public library or read free online editions of the same. But such may be a pejorative on my part. I am loathe to pay good money for substandard literature.
            To pretend that either heterosexuals or homosexuals are not capable of gross evil is a grave mistake. History is replete with examples of man’s inhumanity to man. That’s true of ancient history, modern history, and current history.
            The take away point from Hitler’s dealings with Rohm is that power hungry, megalomaniacal dictators are often, if not always, extremely and dangerously paranoid. Evil persons will use you, abuse you, torture you, or murder you without hesitation or the slightest trace of remorse—if they come to believe that doing so will advance their agenda. A healthy suspicion of all individual aspirants to power is the wisest course of action. What is true with respect to individuals also applies to the agendas those individuals personify. Hence, an ongoing debate about the motivations, objectives, and outcomes of political philosophies and public policies is a necessity rather than a luxury or a hobby.
            If more persons took the time and energy to become informed citizens, we would hear the phrase “unintended consequences” less frequently, because misguided political philosophies and public policies would be nipped in the bud before they take root and harm people. Hitler and his Nazi Socialism is a penultimate example that what begins as “the best course of action” in the view of an ignorant and uninformed populace can, has, and likely will again metastasize into a monstrous cancer that threatens the entire globe.
            The trick, of course, is to get people to apply the same level of critical reason to the politicians and agendas they believe they agree with as they do to those politicians and agendas they believe they disagree with.

          • TWBDB

            I have not read either ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, I have seen the movie. I have not read the entirety or Barack Obama’s ‘Dreams of my Father’; I have read portions. I read non-fiction history, obviously spend a substantial amount of time trying to understand opposing viewpoints with individuals online, and listen to the usual suspects of Hot Talk Conservatism each day I’m on the road commuting. If the local NPR is decent, I listen to that. Bay Area NPR is actually kinda boring to me. I watch CNN, BBC, German and Asian news, plus a little Fox to try and get both sides of an issue. Rachel Maddow drives me nuts as does MSNBC. Therefore…..

            Starting with your paragraph #2, I agree with every thing you said. Once again we find common ground. If people actually tried to be informed cross-political platform as it were, tried to find the truth which always resides somewhere between the two extremes, then I dare say we’d be as polarized as we are today. We’d understand political pundits are in it for the coins, and anytime a person universally denigrates one side or the other, they are either the brainwashed or the brainwasher.

            Newsmax is now giving away an issue entitled ‘WARLORDS, How Talk Radio Decides 2016’. Nice to see that even conservatives are advertising what liberals have been saying all along; the ‘uninformed masses are being informed by political pundits with an agenda’.

  • A3Kr0n

    He was caught running a red light with a huge flag sticking our of his car? You’re just making that up, right?

  • Katina Cooper

    He’s white. That’s why he isn’t dead.

  • gowian

    It’s about heritage, not hate!!

    • lardheppus

      A heritage of hatred?

      • gowian

        Sounds about right.

    • Jack Makokov

      Strong heritage supporter. Supporting blowing things up as a means of intimidation and terrorism in the traditions of his flag-fondling brethren.

    • Madsenms

      It seems to me that is what Leonard thought too.

  • Jus’speakin’th’truth

    I’m sure this is just a “lone wolf” with “mental issues”. Nothing to see here, move along!

  • Angry Wasp

    He is a terrorist, shoot him.

  • Keith Thomason

    We had a state wide vote tie keep the flag so get over it

    • Jack Makokov

      Bomber boy couldn’t “get over” Walmart’s decision to stop selling that flag. Do you think the Daily Journal, WTVA, and Reeds Department Store will simply “get over” this idiot threatening their businesses as well?

    • TWBDB

      And that Mr Thomason speaks volumes in of itself.

  • gloomyharvester

    He wrote “y’all”?

  • jakespoon

    Did anyone ever think he’d be a candidate for MENSA?..No?..Thought so.

  • Jesusismyquarterback

    He also flew the Christian flag on his car…..A friend took this picture of him almost a month ago.

    • Angela Monger

      What the hell is a Christian flag?

      • Jesusismyquarterback

        This is….Many churches fly them.

        • TWBDB

          Leonard is a truly misguided individual.

          • fedupmd

            so is , jesusismyquaterback

          • Jesusismyquarterback

            But isn’t it an attractive statue. My paint by number Jesus is even better. I found it at the thrift store….

        • Dillard Jenkins

          Jesus doesn’t play football you whack-a-dottle.

        • Angela Monger

          I’ve never seen any where I live.

      • TWBDB

        Don’t go there.

    • Rob Anderson

      Sign of a Christo- Taliban and an Anti- American racist.

  • Heywood Jablowme

    Bet you this guy also railed against “mooslims” and how they were a threat. Typical red neck. This is what the folks on the right have created, maybe not intentionally, but they dial up the rhetoric so much that it surprises me there aren’t more people like this guy.

    • Jesusismyquarterback

      His last FB post, the night of the bombing, has a “race war” reference in one of the photos.

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  • Jesusismyquarterback

    My friend that took the picture about a week ago commented that the guy looked like he had real issues….Seems like he did.

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  • BigShinyNoseHair

    “The Confederate battle flag is all about heritage.”

    Yep… a heritage of America-hating traitors who have been reduced to two bit terrorists. Stick this guy in Gitmo with the others.

    • DWarren

      Most of the terrorists who were “stuck in Gitmo” were released by the radical leftist Democrat administration. I think their rate of exchange was five Taliban commanders for one traitor who they claimed had “served with honor and distinction.”

    • His Excellency

      What about the black nationalist flag?

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  • Rob Anderson

    Send this christo-racist – Taliban terrorist to super-max in Florence Co. He’ll fit right in.

    • fedupmd

      Hey, Rob can you fit any more groups in your description? Next time just say everybody but Rob. Self-righteous fool.

      • Adolph DeFlore

        Which one of those groups would you like to defend?

      • Rob Anderson

        fedup! did I touch a nerve/ You RW can’t face losing. You are the ignorant self-righteous fool. Time you realized that we now have a Diverse, Changing America now. Your WASP world is gone, time moves on so should you, evolve or face extinction.

        • TWBDB

          Actually, Rob, I absolutely support your call to accept a diverse America – and I understand your frustration with white supremacy – completely on board with that. However, in doing so, I also must emphasize the white anglo-saxon protestant is included in that vision.

          • Rob Anderson

            I agree most are American but, racist and bigots have no understanding of the Constitution & the Social Contract of Locke, Jefferson, and the founding fathers. They stated it in the first sentence of the Constitution,( Preamble).

          • TWBDB

            Now, that I completely agree with.

  • Jesusismyquarterback

    If he did this 4 days before the bombing why was he cruising around?
    “Journal corporate, you are on final warning,” he wrote Oct. 28. “You are part of the problem. As a result of this, y’all are going down, along with Walmart, WTVA, Reeds department store, and all the rest of the anti-American crooks. I’m not kidding. No messing around anymore!”

    • Adolph DeFlore

      But threatening posts like that are a dime a dozen on the internet. Just good old boys, never meaning no harm.*

      (*Note the double negative.)

      • Jesusismyquarterback

        Well played sir, well played.

      • Thile

        He made a post in the comments on another story about a month ago that he would “make Walmart pay.” His disqus stuff is connected to his Facebook account; whole lotta stupid there.

        • Jesusismyquarterback

          So much for the “Gubmint spying on us” theme. All that time and money wasted on an unnecessary bunker.

  • Jesusismyquarterback

    He is on FB and his followers are an interesting group.

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  • Giantsfan

    Say hello to the face of domestic terrorism, 21st century style.

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  • J Yu

    The South will rise again!

    Not really. This kind of idiot puts the red in neck.

  • dance2019

    Mississippi was the 20th state admitted to the United States, in 1817. So Mississippi has been part of the United States for almost 200 years. It was part of the Confederacy for only four years. Why do some people think those four years matter more than all the rest?

  • Karlew

    I really hope white community leaders start to take responsibility for these kind of terrorist actions.

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  • Anatoliy Golitsyn

    Yep he might be a redneck if he drives around in a special finance car with a rebel flag stuck on it and throws a bomb into a walmart. Jeez I hope this rocket scientist did not breed any offspring burdened by his stupid gene.

  • Anatoliy Golitsyn

    I almost forgot. Here in Kentucky we say again… Wow, thank God for Mississippi! At least we are not friggin stupid!

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  • Marty Martin

    Why would anyone want to fly a flag honoring our Ancestors’ buying and selling people??
    I am NOT proud of that heritage!

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  • Winston Smith

    Regardless of where you stand on the flag issue, you gotta admit, this man is one special kind of stupid.

  • Rob Anderson

    Thanks for spotting the typo, but a good little Eichmann clone would spot that quickly you get to add a cluster star to your swastika. Remember how your propaganda minister end up. His lies ended in 12yrs. instead of a 1,000 year Reich. Now go crawl back in your mason jar, finish your moonshine & go to sleep.

  • Sloppo

    That evil terrorist damaged some valuable Walmart merchandise and should be considered the embodiment of evil, unlike the heroic people who blew up the King David Hotel and killed 91 innocent people.

  • TWBDB

    What has happened in this case?

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  • TWBDB

    On September 16th, 2015, posting under a DJ Article entitled Businesses Divided over flag issue – – Mr Leonard stated “But since Walmart Started this whole mess, Their my first target” – – –