Obama, lawmakers meet on shutdown’s second day



By David Espo

AP Special Correspondent

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama brought congressional leaders to the White House on Wednesday for the first time since a partial government shutdown began, but there were no signs of progress toward ending an impasse that has idled 800,000 federal workers and curbed services around the country.

Obama “refuses to negotiate,” House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio., told reporters after private talks that lasted more than an hour. “All we’re asking for here is a discussion and fairness for the American people under Obamacare.”

But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said moments later, “We’re locked in tight on Obamacare” and neither the president nor Democrats will accept changes in the nation’s three-year-old health care law as the price for spending legislation needed to end the two-day partial shutdown.

With the nation’s ability to borrow money soon to lapse, Republicans and Democrats alike said the shutdown could last for two weeks or more, and soon oblige a divided government to grapple with both economy-threatening issues at the same time.

The high-level bickering at microphones set up outside the White House reflected the day’s proceedings in the Capitol.

The Republican-controlled House approved legislation to reopen the nation’s parks and the National Institutes of Health, even though many Democrats criticized them as part of a piecemeal approach that fell far short of what was needed. The bills face dim prospects in the Senate, and the White House threatened to veto both in the unlikely event they make it to Obama’s desk.

“What we’re trying to do is to get the government open as quickly as possible,” said the House majority leader, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia. “And all that it would take is us realizing we have a lot in agreement.”

Earlier, an attempt by Democrats to force shutdown-ending legislation to the House floor failed on a 227-197 vote, with all Republicans in opposition. That left intact the tea party-driven strategy of demanding changes to the nation’s health care overhaul as the price for essential federal financing, despite grumbling from Republican moderates.

The stock market ended lower as Wall Street CEOs, Europe’s central banker and traders pressed for a solution before serious damage is done to the economy. Chief executives from the nation’s biggest financial firms met Obama for more than an hour Wednesday, some of them plainly frustrated with the tactics at play in Congress and with the potential showdown coming over the debt limit.

“You can re-litigate these policy issues in a political forum, but we shouldn’t use threats of causing the U.S. to fail on its obligations to repay its debt as a cudgel,” Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs, said after the meeting.

Democrats were scathing in their criticism.

“The American people would get better government out of Monkey Island at the local zoo than we’re giving them today,” said Rep. John Dingell of Michigan.

The Republican National Committee announced it would pay for personnel needed to reopen the World War II Memorial, a draw for aging veterans from around the country that is among the sites shuttered. In a statement, party chairman Reince Priebus challenged Democrats “to join with us in keeping this memorial open.”

Democrats labeled that a stunt. “We’ve already been working on a plan to open the Memorial — and the entire government — after the GOP caused them to close,” said party spokesman Mo Elleithee. “It’s called a clean” spending bill.

As it turned out, more than 125 World War II veterans from Mississippi and Iowa who were initially kept out of the memorial Tuesday were escorted to the site with the help of members of Congress. Officials made further arrangements to allow veterans groups into the memorial during the shutdown.

A sampling of federal agencies showed how unevenly the shutdown was felt across the government.

The Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Housing and Urban Development listed only six percent of their employees as essential, and therefore permitted to work during the impasse. James R. Clapper, director of national intelligence, said about 70 percent of civilian employees in agencies under his control had been sent home.

By contrast, about 86 percent of employees of the Department of Homeland Security remained on the job, and 95 percent at the Veterans Affairs Department.

One furloughed employee, meteorologist Amy Fritz, said, “I want to get back to work.” At a news conference arranged by congressional Democrats, the 38-year-old National Weather Service employee said she has more than $100,000 in student loan debt and is looking at ways to cut her budget.

In an interview with CNBC before meeting with lawmakers, Obama said he would not negotiate with Republicans until the government is reopened and Congress votes to raise the debt limit.

“If we get in the habit where a few folks, an extremist wing of one party, whether it’s Democrat or Republican, are allowed to extort concessions based on a threat (to) undermine the full faith and credit of the United States, then any president who comes after me, not just me, will find themselves unable to govern effectively,” he said.

“The White House said Obama would have to truncate a long-planned trip to Asia, calling off the final two stops in Malaysia and the Philippines.

The shutdown also intruded into the race for governor of Virginia.

Terry McAuliffe, the Democrat, said he supported legislation to guarantee retroactive pay for furloughed federal employees. The Republican contender, Ken Cuccinelli, called on members of Congress to decline their pay as long as the shutdown lasts.

The House sidetracked legislation Tuesday night to reopen some veterans programs, the national parks and a portion of the Washington, D.C., municipal government. All three bills fell short of the two-thirds majority needed when Democrats voted overwhelmingly against this.

Republicans tried again, this time under rules requiring only a simple majority. The parks measure was approved on a vote of 252-173, with 23 Democrats breaking ranks and voting in favor. The vote to reopen NIH was 254-171. The House also voted to allow the Washington, D.C., government to use the taxes it collects to operate programs.

Votes were deferred on more bills, one to assure pay for members of the National Guard and Reserves and another to allow some veterans programs to resume.

The NIH bill was added to the day’s agenda after Democrats had said seriously ill patients would be turned away from the facility’s hospital of last resort, and no new enrollment permitted in experimental treatments.

Democratic Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York said the Republican response was a ploy. “Every time they see a bad headline they’re going to bring a bill to the floor and make it go away,” she said.

Some Republicans took obvious pleasure in the rough rollout Tuesday of new health insurance markets created under Obama’s health care law. Widespread online glitches prevented many people from signing up for coverage that begins in January.

Rep. Trey Radel of Florida said a 14-year-old could build a better website “in an afternoon in his basement.”

At issue is the need to pass a temporary funding bill to keep the government open since the start of the new budget year on Tuesday.

Congress has passed more than 100 temporary funding bills since the last shutdown in 1996, almost all of them without controversy. The streak was broken because conservative Republicans have held up the current measure in the longshot hope of derailing or delaying Obamacare, just as the health insurance markets at the heart of the law opened on Tuesday.


Associated Press writers Andrew Taylor, Donna Cassata, Henry Jackson, Julie Pace, Jessica Gresko, Darlene Superville and Seth Borenstein contributed to this story

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  • FrereJocques

    One of the many lessons in life is that you don’t negotiate with a gun held to your head. The Tea Party nutcases are attempting to force their agenda on the country by blackmail.

    The Democrats are going at this from the wrong angle. The Tee Pee-ers feel safe in holding the country hostage because they say the large majority of voters in their districts support their actions. I think it’s time the rest of the country find out just who and where these districts are, and take actions to let them know that spoiled brats don’t get their way. Boycott them in every conceivable category, everything from doing business there, to tourism. Hurt them in their pocketbooks where it counts. Let them know that the rest of us don’t care for their opinion or their actions.

    We can start with the entire state of Texas, home of one of the leaders of the Tee Pee-ers. Texans have gotten way too big for their britches.

  • Jack Makokov

    A summary of the GOPT negotiating:

    “Can I burn down your house?”

    – “No.”

    “Just the second floor?”

    – “No.”


    – “No.

    “Let’s talk about what I can burn down.””

    Repeat process, grandstand about monuments and national parks–nevermind the 800k people you gleefully laid off Tuesday; continue to be lead around by the idiot fringe of your party; PRAY that your constituents are stupid and amnesiacs.

  • guest

    This issue is so much bigger than a funding debate. The cornerstone of our system of government is being challenged right now. Our founding fathers designed our systems to be deliberate to protect it and us from irrational decisions and actions. If you don’t like a law you take it to the people and elect a majority. Move the law through Congress and have the President sign it. Regardless of how one feels about President Obama he cannot give in to the blackmail. We cannot allow a precedent to be set that would allow a minority in Congress threaten to shut government down over any law or system they don’t like. You cannot deal with hostage takers – it will only enbolden others to to the same.
    Call your Congressmen and tell them you want the Senate resolution brought up in the House for a up or down vote and end this mess.

  • Thile

    I’d say the GOP responds like children with undeveloped cognitive abilities, but that’s an insult to kids with underdeveloped cognitive abilities.

    They’re literally unable to see beyond what benefits them in the short term. Even things like “If we don’t make the poors go to ERs for routine care, taxpayers won’t be saddled with the bill” are too abstract. “Hundreds of thousands will be out of work and VA payments will be delayed.” Same thing. They still get paid, and resort to photo ops and grandstanding, only to give the appearance of actually doing something.

    Their willful ignorance allows them to think everything is easy and simple. Negative consequences either don’t occur to them, or are airily dismissed.

  • Pragmatic

    So I guess delaying the individual mandate, while also delaying the business mandate, is too much to ask? Why not offer YoMamacare as a voluntary program for 1 year instead of mandating it? Oh, that is right, when the Unions are your largest donors you make concessions for them but not for the populace that actually went to the polls. That makes sense. Especially when everything that this administration touches seems to flower and bloom; like their foriegn policy; or their domestic policy; or the safety of ambassadors; or {insert long list of other epic fails}. I don’t see Reid or Pelosi lining up for a YoMamacare policy. I guess the $9/month $3000 yearly deductible policy isn’t what THEY want, it is just what THEY want US to have.

    • guest

      I think it only fair that someone explain to you that your post is incoherent.

      The delay for corporations is really not a big deal and a grown up decision. It makes sense that larger corporations would need a little more time to set up the best insurance system. In the end it will be better for both the employees and the business and in the scope of things you really are not talking about a lot of time. The unions did balk at first but now they are on board with the AHCA – once they took the time to understand the law but you really could care less about the unions you just wanted to imply a negative. As far as delaying the opening of the exchanges your logic is extremely flawed – why deny the public a chance to compare health insurance prices over the next 6 months? What is the harm in giving people a choice? No one has said that they have to have insurance today – next week or even next month? Why delay losing the no pre existing conditions clause? Why delay keeping our children on our insurance until they are 26? I mean give people the choice to go into the exchanges and if nobody participates then the whole world will see the Republicans were right. I mean if a party is ready to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States and destroy the ecconomy then they certainly should be able to let the AHCA fall on its face to prove its point that Obama was wrong.

      If you don’t understand the law fine but you need to know that the false comparison of allowing corporations more time to structure their plans to preventing people from shopping health insurance are two different creatures.